Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

getsue, if you took my comments as argumentative, I apologize because thats not who I am. I was trying to help with the asking of pics and description as compared to what ive grown for a very long time.

Please don't judge in saying the I know it all because I don't.

Please don't question why I am on this forum like you just did.

I always listen and Im always learning.

[QUOTEI made it clear in finishing the sentence that if someone doesnt like the growth habits of a certain variety due to their personal reason to get rid of them. I know because ive done it more thanI can count.So,I basically told you that I shared your same feeling.

Yes, cooler climates will induce bananas to grow taller and so will shade but when you say that your banana plants snap then is a big question and I was only trying to help you figure out what it might be. (mysore? (big bunches though)

When I said 9ft It was a quick shoot confused with another. I later posted a picture with a Manzano next to a 10 ft PVC to remind myself ..did you see it? So yes, I can attest to having 12ft plants and taller and also shorter flowerings at 9-10ft.

One more thing...when I put Lol it means to be funny not made fun off.I was trying to add some humor to the story while we live through these tough times of 2020.I think I have been a contributing member to this forum and I have always tried to help in whichever way I can.

Again,if I offended you or anyone in any way I apologize.

:bananas_b

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

Hi Bill

We are all on this forum, because we love growing bananas, Rene AKA Greenie, has been on this forum, from the beginning and has a lot of experience growing bananas, not too mentioned he is one of the nicest people that you'll ever meet and will always help where he can. Bananas.org is what it is today, because of the hard work people like Rene have put into this forum.


With the Covid 19 pandemic this year, I thought everyone would have the Love Thy Neighbour attitude on this forum.:ha: :bananas_b

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

Am I the only one that was nervous to click on a thread titled "I pulled out my Manzano"?:ha::ha::ha:

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No! I thought the same thing! LOL.

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Well said. I would also like to put a word in, from my correspondences with him for a transaction, my impression is that of a generous and kind hearted soul, who likes to give advice to genuinely help out, not because of any ego or thinking "they know everything".

Such a shame the way people can misinterpret good intentions....Especially over the 'net.

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

Good word

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

I had a manzano a number of years back, and I also thought it totally sucked as far as bananas go. Very disappointing. My other varieties performed much better.

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

I had what was supposedly a Manzano probably 10 yrs ago. I recall it being a weak grower as well. I can't recall now where I got it, if it was a trade with another forum member or an internet purchase. I just recall being disappointed in how it grew. I think it eventually just withered away and the next banana I put in the exact same spot grew well. Go figure!

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I love manzano. The ones from the wild grove are the best bananas I have ever tasted. They are about as thick in the base as a basketball.

I have a feeling that we are all talking about slightly different strains within the variety, if that is a thing..... I dunno :ha:

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

This thread is interesting to me for a couple of reasons. I've noticed that a few people living on the west coast like Brazilians a lot more than Manzanos, and vise versa on the east coast. I grew Manzano for about 30 yrs. Because they are my favorite tasting bananas. I also grew dwarf Brazilian because of recommendations from people in California growing them. They never came close to delivering the described flavors of a Brazilian. I'm sure I had true Manzano and Brazilian. I just concluded that the difference in climate made the difference in taste. I don't care what the variety is, as long as I enjoy the fruit.
I have to say that tall and skinny , or plants that snap with small bunches, doesn't describe what I have grown in S. FL.. as Manzano. If you live in S. FL. don't let this thread discourage you from trying Manzano. Anywhere else, they may not be nearly as good, I don't know, I live here.
I am a firm believer in getting rid of what's not working out. I have grown 50 + varieties and am down to only 2 now. Everything else had to go for one reason or another, pups too much, too tall, fruit taste, hardiness, ect... You would think acquiring a true Manzano in S Fl. Would be easy, since they are plentiful here. Not so easy, just like many other plants purchased from reputable sources, I have several times been given the wrong varieties, labeled wrong, ect.. It happens. All I'm saying is, make sure you have what you think you have, before discouraging others of a particular variety. Taste is very subjective, so much so, I could never take anyone's word for it. That's why I grew 50+ varieties. I hope everyone reading this thread is encouraged to give what interests you a try, and see how it works out for you!

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Very interesting... yeah this thread has left me with more questions than answers based on everyones different experiences :ha::ha:

I'm growing 2 different Manzano - one from a small TC and the other from a pup. I won't be surprised now if they end up being completely different.

I'm curious... what are those 2 varieties that hit the sweet spot for you?

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

Manzano and Chini Champa.

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I have a manzano and it's tall and skinny, and has yet to fruit for me. 2 years now, maybe 3. The goldfingers beside it however fruit every year, and also sometimes ahve a slight apple after taste. I'm about to pull the manzano too.
Maybe put in a d> brazillian and see what comes of that. I like plants that fruit consistently every year.
The goldfinger stays planted as even now I have 4 bunches filling out even in winter.

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I think someone should send up a real deal Manzano to California and see if it's different from the tall skinny manzanos growing there already.

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

And what makes you think we don't have the real deal?

Mine are from a member on here, I got from years ago.

adn if you think you have the real deal, send a pup my way and we'll see what happens? Yes?

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

im growing musa manzano and i love it. its growing great for me. im in the UK also. it's still alive even after all this cold weather in my poly. its big tho

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

Glad to find this thread, so it's not just me growing a Manzano and hating the way it grows! I bought mine from someone on a different website, a skinny pup in Nov 2021. It went through a freeze okay but then never really recovered. All my other bananas recovered very well. I moved it to less than prime location just to see if it ever does anything. It's still only as tall as when I got it due to the frost.

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

i have had manzno's for 6 years that do not grow well either. shame, i love to eat them.

what many people fail to realize, or it seems like they do, is everybody has different soils. mine is golden sand, which holds no moisture. some bananas grow ok in it, but many do not. many other things like slight differences in weather, one extra frost can do it.

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

Yeah I love the taste of them! So I was hoping it would have done better. My soil is grey sand and I added quite a bit of organic matter but it just always looked like it was chlorotic and struggled to grow no matter what I did. I didn't see any evidence of nemotodes or anything. Roots looked fine, it was just severely stunted.

Re: I pulled out my Manzano.
 

well dont give up there are other alternatives.

my manzano's and my gros michal, which i think is a dwarf, guit growing good while the cow manure and compost was good [not used up]. i tried putting fresh cow and compost on top with little effect. so i am working with compost tea. but have not done so yet because both are freshly replanted.

but thanks to hurricane erma, i might have stumbled upon a different way of planting. 10 mats so far, planted with 8 different varieties of bananas has been working fantastically in my yard and my soil for most plants. it takes me a week and a half to prepare a hole for a banana. i am working on hole number 11 as we speak.

at this time i am not giving up any information until i know more about what i am doing. maybe november. and i will probably not know totally for 2 to 3 years.

thanks for turning me around about the ph meter, in this it was extremely helpful.

what is your moisture reading the day after it rains? 3 days?