Brazilian - Notes on Banana Varieties in Hawaii

PR-Giants · 03-30-2014, 08:51 PM

N. W. SIMMONDS -

Brazilian. An AB-type triploid; material introduced
to the I.CT.A. in 1939 proved
to be identical with a variety called Pome
from the Canary Islands. The sometimes
misshapen male bud with a few persistent
bracts just above it is characteristic. The
fruit is subacid and of poor quality; it has
little to recommend it as a dessert banana
(to a West Indian trained taste, at least),
and its acceptance in Hawaii seems to be
a good example of the power of need and
habit in influencing the demands of a market.
It is resistant to Panama disease and
to leaf spot.

http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu...pdf?sequence=1

Full text of "Banana culture in Hawaii"

Banana--Farmer's Bookshelf

venturabananas · 03-30-2014, 11:34 PM

Taste is taste and different people have different tastes. My Vietnamese neighbor hates bananas with any tartness. She doesn't like Brazilian or Mysore as a result. I prefer the bananas with a bit or tartness and so I think they're great and preferable to those without any.

Richard · 03-31-2014, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas

Taste is taste and different people have different tastes. My Vietnamese neighbor hates bananas with any tartness. She doesn't like Brazilian or Mysore as a result. I prefer the bananas with a bit or tartness and so I think they're great and preferable to those without any.

Exactly. I like a wide range of banana flavors. My Thai neighbor does not care for Mysore, and she thinks that peaches are a terrible fruit.

PR-Giants · 03-31-2014, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venturabananas

Taste is taste and different people have different tastes. My Vietnamese neighbor hates bananas with any tartness. She doesn't like Brazilian or Mysore as a result. I prefer the bananas with a bit or tartness and so I think they're great and preferable to those without any.

N. W. SIMMONDS -

did specify "West Indian trained taste"

The West Indies is a region of the Caribbean Basin.

venturabananas · 03-31-2014, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants

N. W. SIMMONDS -

did specify "West Indian trained taste"

The West Indies is a region of the Caribbean Basin.

Yep. What's our next geography lesson?

robguz24 · 03-31-2014, 12:56 PM

I have to wonder if it also tastes quite different based on where it is grown. Kepler & Rust mention that they love Manzano in the Caribbean, but find it chalky and astringent in Hawaii. When I was in Brazil several months ago, in a few different parts of the country, the Brazilians were just ok, with an inferior texture and muted taste compared to those in Hawaii. The Manzano however, were much better than I've had in Hawaii.

venturabananas · 03-31-2014, 01:07 PM

Rob, I've wondered the same thing. For example, Dwarf Brazilian grown here in Ventura tastes better to me than those I've tasted in Hawaii and the Cook Islands -- more pineapple flavor and tartness and less earthiness. The Manzano I've had in the Cook Islands and French Polynesia were better than those I tried in Hawaii. I just harvested my first few fingers of Ventura-grown Manzano (which were starting to split). I am anxious for them to ripen to see how they taste when grown in my cool, dry climate.

Julian · 04-01-2014, 02:55 AM

Dude must have eaten his Pomes too early. If you eat them early like u can do with Cavs, then I can understand where they are coming from. Eat Dbs at their prime with some brown on them. That's how u do it.

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