Blue Java - the Real Deal!!!
 

Stopped by a club members house today to talk about papayas and spotted this bunch on one of his old BJ mats. I said I'll take it to go and here it is. Look at how big the fingers are --- this mat is growing in an old cow pasture.



Note the long pedicels and the blue-ish skin.


Will do a taste report when they ripen up.

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You probably should use a Grade 70 chain to hold that bunch.

The yellow chromate (gold) plating makes it easily recognizable even from a distance.

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I wonder if someone spread azomite in the pasture. They must have to get fingers that size

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You shouldn't have to wonder, the farmer probably fed azomite to the cows and then the cows spread it in the pasture.

Azomite is the best, it's a gift that keeps on giving.
http://azomite.com/resources/feed_guidelines.pdf

If someone in Milwaukee eats those bananas, the cycle will keep on going.
Milorganite

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Nice!!:woohoonaner:

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You guys sure love to poke fun at Azomite. Got any proof that it doesn't perform? I don't use it but for those that do your constant poo pooing must be somewhat annoying.

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Mitchel, I don't think anyone is implying that it doesn't work.

The real question is how much does it really help?

I'm sure the cost benefit ratio would be extremely low.

I also agree it is somewhat annoying.

Anyway, where are all the University studies proving how great it is?

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Do you even hear yourself? If people are having fun with it and growing giant kale or whatever, why poo poo them? They are not going to effect your life in any way so why all the hate?

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Think 100 years of poopamite - livestock just keep on giving. The mangos, citrus, cados and lychee trees there are all monsters. Three acres of fruit trees that never need store bought fert. Wish I had half that much land to play farmer Brown with. That's an acre and a half, Tony. :ha:

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THIS QUOTE WILL NO DOUBT LIVE ON... YES POOPAMITE NEEDS ITS PLACE ON WIKI

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POOPAMITE -the Real Deal!!!
:nanadrink:

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Don't be silly.

There's no emotions involved in a cost benefit analysis.

I pruned & harvested an avocado tree yesterday, filled the order and had an extra 800 lbs of fruit.

The extra fruit was free and will make great compost

What's better for the soil, $20 worth of Azomite or. 800 lbs of cados & an extra Jackson in your pocket.

Every city has some type of waste material, free or at little cost, that can benefit your soil

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:woohoonaner:
It always nice to be able to taste the fruit before you invest time and space.

Great Haul :nanadrink:

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Cant wait to the test review Dan !..

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I think your going to need a bigger fence.....from the movie BANANAS..:ha::ha:
Nice pic Dan

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Some people who use free city compost and "rock dust" report improved results in test plots.

We haven't always had peer reviewed studies, we had to experiment along the way.

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Rabbit rolls fertilizer...



Now if I can simply get them to drop the droppings on the plants, I'll be happy:}

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Nice job!

I have a bunch this size with no fertilizer (other than the Forrest Floor). No watering (other than rain) it is in the back corner of my yard and easily the most neglected banana plant in our garden.

I will post some pics later.

For us the key is maintaining the "Forrest Floor"....layers of leaves, horse poo and wood chippings (all obtained for free, as unwanted byproduct).

Quick Video
 

2013 08 31 Garden Tour - YouTube

More pics than you want:-)

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Thanks for the pics Rmpl. Now I'm convinced my fruit are the real deal BJ.

So give us a taste/texture descript.

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BJ, Awesome...that is a very nice raceme you scored! I will post more pics when the fruit is harvested. You ever make to Tampa you are welcome to divisions of whatever we have!

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Chris

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Thatʻs the real deal. I am pretty sure youʻll find them to be just okay in taste. I dug up my mat of them because they were just not up to snuff. :nanadrink:

Blue Java - Same Plant Groups June 2011
 

Left to Right
Banana Racemes Ice Cream, Saba & Ele Ele

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How tall is the pseudostem on Ice Cream?

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Almost medium tall. About 3 ft shorter than the PK.

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And any reports on the flavor yet? :08:

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Nope. Have cut off the first hand and separated the fingers. Put 2 in a paper bag with a persimmon to speed up ripening. Still mostly green - the persimmon too.

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Wow, That's Great.

I want the Real Blue Java, a GSL of over 9 days, Nice !!!

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OK --- I'll bite --- whatz GSL mean --- Gender and Sexuality Law, Guaranteed Student Loan, Glock Shooting League…..what?

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Sorry about that, I was thinking in spanish and writing in english.

In your case it would be BSL- Blue Shelf Life.

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Taste report on Blue Java bunch.

Now I know why this thing got called Ice Cream. When I cut open the first one I saw creamy white flesh. Like vanilla ice cream.

Texture is very soft when fully ripe. Taste is astringent until they fully ripen. Then it's ok ---- that's it folks ----- it's a mediocre naner at best. Still don't like it straight but it works cut up in breakfast cereal. The dog loves them, but then she likes to chew on her butt too!

It just isn't worth a full blown description like robguz does. Why do so many folks want this thing? Where is the hype coming from?

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To Funny Dan.. I think its all in the name... the draw, there's a sucker born every minute they say.. Maybe that's why agri-starts doesn't use the real thing.. :^)

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Exactly why mine was removed and replaced with Namwah! :ha:

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I think the hype comes from the name too. The blue bananas look nice, so there's novelty in that. But where I live anyway, they're a pain to grow. They always lean and seem to get more nematode and weevil damage that others. It would be nice if people weren't so focused on the type. It's just not even worth growing and I'll eat a grocery store cavendish before these. They work well frozen, but even then Namwahs are superior and make better banana "ice cream."

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I have not seen any hype on the Blue Java banana tree

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hype?

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I am currently growing a blue java for first time have not tasted yet. I think what bananimal means by hype is that the wiki states that the blue java is rated best tasting by many people Musa Ice Cream (Blue Java - Bananas Wiki) . some people in banana community I think reject the blue java due to the fact that its color is blue and not ordinary green.

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Your taste report is right on, for years I thought my ice cream didn't taste so good because of the environment (fertilizer, water and sandy alkaline soil), four months ago and after three and half years I've removed the mat.

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And it seems that "best testing" and "tastes like ice cream" comments seem to make it into descriptions of them on sites and ebay listings selling them.

I was sure I already had an extensive taste report on here, but then remembered the last time I had some, they were so yucky I couldn't even bring myself to have 2 and write a report.

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was a top quality cooking banana. :08:

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The color is yellow when ripe.

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You mentioned many times that they are yucky

http://www.bananas.org/f2/musa-blue-...tml#post221743

http://www.bananas.org/f2/how-long-d...tml#post213304

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Still have about 2 doz left on the stalk. Will try frying a couple and see. The texture is so mushy/fluffy that it may fall apart.

Bottom line ---- I'll never grow this thing!!!!

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They are terrible cooked.

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That's what I'm thinking too. lol

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:woohoonaner:

You're probably right, A cooking banana that tastes terrible cooked, but it does taste pretty good ripe.

:ha::ha::ha:

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http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/UHMG/dow...nanas_ADSC.pdf


What they say about cooking it...

"Both the immature and mature stage can be used for cooking, but they develop an astringency after cooking."

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In case anyone is wondering, I think they're yucky cooked. I've never actually had them cooked, but I'm pretty sure they're yucky. Please search my previous posts for my comments on how yucky they are. ;)

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Here's both sentences....

"Both the immature and mature stage can be used for cooking, but they develop an
astringency after cooking. When fully ripened and soft, the flesh turns fluffy and sweet,
hence the name Ice Cream."

For whatever the reason Hawaii seems to have more of an astringency problem than other regions.

If they develop an astringency after cooking, maybe it was because of the way it was cooked.


The Blue Java is grown and sold in markets in many countries,
so common sense would dictate there's probably a good reason.

Hana Farms grows and sells them at their market in Maui. They also use them
in their banana breads, hot sauces and butters. 808-248-7553

Re: Blue Java - the Real Deal!!!
 

OMG.. Its blue, Its yellow, its fluffy, its fried, its best ripe, its from Hawaii… Someone once told me they were like eating cotton balls soaked in banana butter!
So this morning I am frying me some da-gum Orinco’s !
No disrespect meant to the author of this thread.. Because if it weren’t for his perseverance and professionalism I would be African Rhino Hornless.
Now that we establish I got a attitude today let me put in my 02 about Ice Cream .. They just taste OK to me . No big deal “to me” …
Im being truthful... I would rather have a plantain to eat and grow

Im not a hater.. dont hate me for eating orinco's
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