Bloom size correlate to harvest size?

Cocoa Beach Jason · 06-05-2013, 08:28 PM

My dwarf namwah has the largest bloom I have ever seen on any tree. Huge! Is that any indication of the harvest potential? Does a huge bloom necessarily translate into a lot of fruit or should I be less optimistic?

Cocoa Beach Jason · 06-05-2013, 08:40 PM

Sorry for the duplicate post guys. On accident.

sunfish · 06-05-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocoa Beach Jason

My dwarf namwah has the largest bloom I have ever seen on any tree. Huge! Is that any indication of the harvest potential? Does a huge bloom necessarily translate into a lot of fruit or should I be less optimistic?

Namwah for me always had large buds and lots of fruit

robguz24 · 06-05-2013, 11:31 PM

My first ever, now blooming, tall namwah had a massive bud and it's also the biggest bunch I've ever had.

RandyGHO · 06-06-2013, 02:14 PM

I had wondered the same thing about bloom size.

I have an observation that may be true but I don't have enough experience to back it up. As a hand forms under a bud petal, it draws energy from the plant. The next petal puts out another hand but this time the plant is supporting two hands. As the hands keep forming the stem and the plant become like a multilane highway and gets overloaded and the hands slow then stop.

I think that is why the first few months of a banana plants life are so important. The bigger the highway the more hands that will be made.

In other words the number of hands is built in as the tree matures. So it is not the number of petals but the strength of the plant to support multiple hands.

sunfish · 06-06-2013, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyGHO

I had wondered the same thing about bloom size.

I have an observation that may be true but I don't have enough experience to back it up. As a hand forms under a bud petal, it draws energy from the plant. The next petal puts out another hand but this time the plant is supporting two hands. As the hands keep forming the stem and the plant become like a multilane highway and gets overloaded and the hands slow then stop.

I think that is why the first few months of a banana plants life are so important. The bigger the highway the more hands that will be made.

In other words the number of hands is built in as the tree matures. So it is not the number of petals but the strength of the plant to support multiple hands.

PR-Giants · 06-06-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyGHO

I had wondered the same thing about bloom size.

I have an observation that may be true but I don't have enough experience to back it up. As a hand forms under a bud petal, it draws energy from the plant. The next petal puts out another hand but this time the plant is supporting two hands. As the hands keep forming the stem and the plant become like a multilane highway and gets overloaded and the hands slow then stop.

I think that is why the first few months of a banana plants life are so important. The bigger the highway the more hands that will be made.

In other words the number of hands is built in as the tree matures. So it is not the number of petals but the strength of the plant to support multiple hands.

Analogies are great, gotta map?

RandyGHO · 06-07-2013, 12:43 PM

Best I could come up with.

Nicolas Naranja · 06-07-2013, 03:49 PM

From someone who has harvested thousands of bunches, I can tell you with certainty that the bigger the bloom, the bigger the bunch. Apparently there is a critical time to keep the plant stress free as it determines how many fruits it will make. I have some plants that were beautiful and large that only produced meager bunches because of some stress that occurred. I think it's about 5-6 months back from shooting.

NANAMAN · 06-10-2013, 10:47 AM

I read somewhere that a banana plant determines how many hands it will produce by 3-4 mos. That seems to be accurate according to my trials growing them. I do know that even if you get a large bunch, any stress on the host plant will negatively effect, either the size of individual hands or fingers or fruit quality of the bunch. That is why I don't remove any pups from the mats that I plan to collect any fruit from!

sunfish · 06-10-2013, 11:02 AM

The smaller the bloom the larger the harvest

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