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the flying dutchman · 05-20-2011, 06:06 AM

Man, i take my hat of for you, what a job, well done.

Btw i have just read that scientists from the University of Wageningen in Holland are doing an expedition to Azerbeidjan, Georgie and Armenie to discover wild spinache species in order to cross them with existing cultivars.

Ron...

Richard · 05-31-2011, 11:46 AM

A volunteer tomato has sprouted up aggressively in my front yard so I decided to put a 4-foot (1.2 meter) cage on it and build a basin around it. The plant is some sort of cross between some cherry tomatoes (Sun Gold or Black Cherry) and a standard black tomato (Black From Tula). We'll know more about the cross when the fruit forms and ripens.

It's really having a great time -- on this spot last winter we potted up several hundred bareroot fruit trees and in the process were coating the roots with mycorrhizae powder and a 100ppm-N dosage of 10-20-30.

sunfish · 06-04-2011, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

A volunteer tomato has sprouted up aggressively in my front yard so I decided to put a 4-foot (1.2 meter) cage on it and build a basin around it. The plant is some sort of cross between some cherry tomatoes (Sun Gold or Black Cherry) and a standard black tomato (Black From Tula). We'll know more about the cross when the fruit forms and ripens.

It's really having a great time -- on this spot last winter we potted up several hundred bareroot fruit trees and in the process were coating the roots with mycorrhizae powder and a 100ppm-N dosage of 10-20-30.

Totally Awesome Stuff. Thanks for sharing

Richard · 06-12-2011, 09:31 PM

In the last two weeks, that tomato has about doubled in size.

Richard · 06-21-2011, 10:25 AM

It's over the top of the cage now, a total of 4 feet high and 5 feet wide. Pretty soon I'll be trimming it back from the walkway with a power hedger.

The plant in the foreground is a volunteer seedling of Double Feverfew.

.

Richard · 07-01-2011, 03:39 PM

The tomato plant is now 6 foot high and loaded with fruit sets. It could take awhile for the fruit to ripen and then we'll find out what sort of tomato it is!

ShearMe · 07-03-2011, 02:57 AM

Nice! That thing sure grew fast.

NANAMAN · 07-03-2011, 10:56 AM

I like the flowers behind the tomato too!

Richard · 07-05-2011, 01:47 AM

Here's two views of the 260+ varieties of vegetables and herbs I'm growing for Farmers' Market sales.

Richard · 11-23-2011, 08:32 PM

I've been working about an hour or two a day for the last week cleaning up my banana plat, and finished just before sundown today. I filled 11 barrels with extra pups, leaves, and weeds to take the greenery facility. In the photo below:

1. unseen behind me is a Dwarf Orinoco pup.
2. on the immediate right is the "Bencelest" banana holding fruit (behind stalk) and its pup sticking 3 leaves in the picture.
3. about a meter past it is an African Rhinohorn pup about 1 meter tall.
4. then visually behind the leaves of the A.R. pup you see the fresh stump of the Misi Luki Awak and a 2 meter tall pup growing out behind it.
5. behind that and just barely to the left is the thin stalk of a new Dwarf Namwah coming up.
6. way down at the end on the left side of the plat you might be able to discern the 10cm wide stalk of a 2nd generation Dwarf Brazilian.

Now just for fun, here's how the plat looked from the opposite end (elevated view) about 2 years ago:

sunfish · 11-23-2011, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

I've been working about an hour or two a day for the last week cleaning up my banana plat, and finished just before sundown today. I filled 11 barrels with extra pups, leaves, and weeds to take the greenery facility. In the photo below:

1. unseen behind me is a Dwarf Orinoco pup.
2. on the immediate right is the "Bencelest" banana holding fruit (behind stalk) and its pup sticking 3 leaves in the picture.
3. about a meter past it is an African Rhinohorn pup about 1 meter tall.
4. then visually behind the leaves of the A.R. pup you see the fresh stump of the Misi Luki Awak and a 2 meter tall pup growing out behind it.
5. behind that and just barely to the left is the thin stalk of a new Dwarf Namwah coming up.
6. way down at the end on the left side of the plat you might be able to discern the 10cm wide stalk of a 2nd generation Dwarf Brazilian.

Now just for fun, here's how the plat looked from the opposite end (elevated view) about 2 years ago:

Richard are you having to trim the corms yet.

Richard · 11-23-2011, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunfish

Richard are you having to trim the corms yet.

Yes, the Dwarf Orinoco especially. The A.R. is too young to need it.

momoese · 11-23-2011, 09:02 PM

I should take pics of my out of control mats, you wanna see huge corms?

Richard · 12-17-2011, 09:33 PM

I made 3 sets of 14-inch bowls to sell at the market tomorrow.

1st set of bowls: 3 lettuces plus spigarello.
2nd set of bowls: garlic, shallots, cipollini gold onions, and cipolla red torpedo onions.
3rd set of bowls: greek oregano, winter savory, mitsuba (a perennial parsley), and mother of thyme.

Richard · 12-23-2011, 07:29 PM

Last summer I ordered 165 bareroot trees to restock my inventory for 2012. They arrived on Wednesday and the potting has begun!

Richard · 12-28-2011, 12:48 AM

Yes, I'm still potting up bareroot fruit trees!

One of the humorous ironies of bareroot is that the true miniatures have larger root systems than a "standard" variety. This is because it takes the miniatures an extra year to be "of size" to sell. For comparison, a true miniature has an inter-node length of about a 1/2 inch, where as a standard has at least an inch or two between leaf and/or branch nodes on a stem.

So here you go ... a picture of a bareroot "Pix Zee" peach which comes grafted on "Lovell" rootstock. The entire plant is 4 feet high, and you can see the graft about halfway up. For size comparison, there is a 5-gallon pot on the left that a "standard" would fit in, but obviously the "Pix Zee" will need the 15-gallon pot on the right!

Richard · 01-02-2012, 06:34 PM

Sometimes (rarely) among a bareroot order you will find 2 plants that are merged at the roots. When the field workers were planting rootstocks, 2 saplings were planted in one hole. Given the pace these workers go at to plant a half-million saplings, its amazing it doesn't happen more often. Then 4 months later the grafting crew comes by and typically grafts onto both saplings, making some effort to separate the two trunks. That doesn't always work if the rootballs have seriously wrapped together. If it doesn't work, then when shipped, the plants are sold as one. In my experience, I see about 1 every 5,000 trees. Here's one that turned up in this year's shipment:

Richard · 01-16-2012, 03:20 PM

I've narrowed my local sales down to just one Farmer's Market on the coast where they enjoy year-round gardening. I really enjoy the location and the people there -- its a real Sunday-go-to-meetin' place. Now (Monday) its time to unload the trailer!

Richard · 01-19-2012, 05:02 PM

Yesterday my buddy Sand came by and assisted with the pruning of my nursery stock of about 1000 deciduous trees. By myself it would take all week, so I'm thrilled to get it all done in half a day!

Here's a row of a couple hundred, mostly in 15 gallon pots:

Richard · 01-20-2012, 12:22 AM

I just finished potting up all my bareroot trees, the last of which were delivered a week ago. That's ...
20 shrubs
145 trees
into
70 15-gallon pots
75 5-gallon pots
using
100 1-cubic-foot bags of soil
3/4 lbs of powdered mycorrhizae with humic acid
1/4 cup of 6% EDDHA chelated iron
1/2 cup of 10-20-30 with minors and micronutrients
approximately 120 gallons of water

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05-31-2011, 11:46 AM	#142 (permalink)
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Richard un-Retired Richard's Photo Gallery Location: Vista, CA Find me on the map! Zone: USDA 10b Name: Richard Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,674 BananaBucks : 788,215 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times Was Thanked 12,537 Times in 4,719 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times	Re: In the beginning, the plant site was empty It's over the top of the cage now, a total of 4 feet high and 5 feet wide. Pretty soon I'll be trimming it back from the walkway with a power hedger. The plant in the foreground is a volunteer seedling of Double Feverfew. . __________________ Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com

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Richard un-Retired Richard's Photo Gallery Location: Vista, CA Find me on the map! Zone: USDA 10b Name: Richard Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,674 BananaBucks : 788,215 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times Was Thanked 12,537 Times in 4,719 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times	Re: In the beginning, the plant site was empty The tomato plant is now 6 foot high and loaded with fruit sets. It could take awhile for the fruit to ripen and then we'll find out what sort of tomato it is! __________________ Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com

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Richard un-Retired Richard's Photo Gallery Location: Vista, CA Find me on the map! Zone: USDA 10b Name: Richard Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,674 BananaBucks : 788,215 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times Was Thanked 12,537 Times in 4,719 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times	Re: In the beginning, the plant site was empty Here's two views of the 260+ varieties of vegetables and herbs I'm growing for Farmers' Market sales. __________________ Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com

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Richard un-Retired Richard's Photo Gallery Location: Vista, CA Find me on the map! Zone: USDA 10b Name: Richard Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,674 BananaBucks : 788,215 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times Was Thanked 12,537 Times in 4,719 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times	Re: In the beginning, the plant site was empty I've been working about an hour or two a day for the last week cleaning up my banana plat, and finished just before sundown today. I filled 11 barrels with extra pups, leaves, and weeds to take the greenery facility. In the photo below: 1. unseen behind me is a Dwarf Orinoco pup. 2. on the immediate right is the "Bencelest" banana holding fruit (behind stalk) and its pup sticking 3 leaves in the picture. 3. about a meter past it is an African Rhinohorn pup about 1 meter tall. 4. then visually behind the leaves of the A.R. pup you see the fresh stump of the Misi Luki Awak and a 2 meter tall pup growing out behind it. 5. behind that and just barely to the left is the thin stalk of a new Dwarf Namwah coming up. 6. way down at the end on the left side of the plat you might be able to discern the 10cm wide stalk of a 2nd generation Dwarf Brazilian. Now just for fun, here's how the plat looked from the opposite end (elevated view) about 2 years ago: __________________ Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com Last edited by Richard : 11-23-2011 at 08:34 PM. Reason: barrels

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momoese Banana grower momoese's Photo Gallery Find me on the map! Zone: zone 10 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 7,593 BananaBucks : 60,808 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,757 Times Was Thanked 10,894 Times in 3,314 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 730 Times	Re: In the beginning, the plant site was empty I should take pics of my out of control mats, you wanna see huge corms?

12-17-2011, 09:33 PM	#154 (permalink)
Richard un-Retired Richard's Photo Gallery Location: Vista, CA Find me on the map! Zone: USDA 10b Name: Richard Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,674 BananaBucks : 788,215 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times Was Thanked 12,537 Times in 4,719 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times	Re: In the beginning, the plant site was empty I made 3 sets of 14-inch bowls to sell at the market tomorrow. 1st set of bowls: 3 lettuces plus spigarello. 2nd set of bowls: garlic, shallots, cipollini gold onions, and cipolla red torpedo onions. 3rd set of bowls: greek oregano, winter savory, mitsuba (a perennial parsley), and mother of thyme. __________________ Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com

12-23-2011, 07:29 PM	#155 (permalink)
Richard un-Retired Richard's Photo Gallery Location: Vista, CA Find me on the map! Zone: USDA 10b Name: Richard Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,674 BananaBucks : 788,215 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times Was Thanked 12,537 Times in 4,719 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times	Re: In the beginning, the plant site was empty Last summer I ordered 165 bareroot trees to restock my inventory for 2012. They arrived on Wednesday and the potting has begun! __________________ Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com

12-28-2011, 12:48 AM	#156 (permalink)
Richard un-Retired Richard's Photo Gallery Location: Vista, CA Find me on the map! Zone: USDA 10b Name: Richard Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,674 BananaBucks : 788,215 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times Was Thanked 12,537 Times in 4,719 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times	Re: In the beginning, the plant site was empty Yes, I'm still potting up bareroot fruit trees! One of the humorous ironies of bareroot is that the true miniatures have larger root systems than a "standard" variety. This is because it takes the miniatures an extra year to be "of size" to sell. For comparison, a true miniature has an inter-node length of about a 1/2 inch, where as a standard has at least an inch or two between leaf and/or branch nodes on a stem. So here you go ... a picture of a bareroot "Pix Zee" peach which comes grafted on "Lovell" rootstock. The entire plant is 4 feet high, and you can see the graft about halfway up. For size comparison, there is a 5-gallon pot on the left that a "standard" would fit in, but obviously the "Pix Zee" will need the 15-gallon pot on the right! __________________ Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com

01-02-2012, 06:34 PM	#157 (permalink)
Richard un-Retired Richard's Photo Gallery Location: Vista, CA Find me on the map! Zone: USDA 10b Name: Richard Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,674 BananaBucks : 788,215 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times Was Thanked 12,537 Times in 4,719 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times	Re: In the beginning, the plant site was empty Sometimes (rarely) among a bareroot order you will find 2 plants that are merged at the roots. When the field workers were planting rootstocks, 2 saplings were planted in one hole. Given the pace these workers go at to plant a half-million saplings, its amazing it doesn't happen more often. Then 4 months later the grafting crew comes by and typically grafts onto both saplings, making some effort to separate the two trunks. That doesn't always work if the rootballs have seriously wrapped together. If it doesn't work, then when shipped, the plants are sold as one. In my experience, I see about 1 every 5,000 trees. Here's one that turned up in this year's shipment: __________________ Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com

01-16-2012, 03:20 PM	#158 (permalink)
Richard un-Retired Richard's Photo Gallery Location: Vista, CA Find me on the map! Zone: USDA 10b Name: Richard Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,674 BananaBucks : 788,215 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times Was Thanked 12,537 Times in 4,719 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times	Re: In the beginning, the plant site was empty I've narrowed my local sales down to just one Farmer's Market on the coast where they enjoy year-round gardening. I really enjoy the location and the people there -- its a real Sunday-go-to-meetin' place. Now (Monday) its time to unload the trailer! __________________ Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com

01-19-2012, 05:02 PM	#159 (permalink)
Richard un-Retired Richard's Photo Gallery Location: Vista, CA Find me on the map! Zone: USDA 10b Name: Richard Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,674 BananaBucks : 788,215 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times Was Thanked 12,537 Times in 4,719 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times	Re: In the beginning, the plant site was empty Yesterday my buddy Sand came by and assisted with the pruning of my nursery stock of about 1000 deciduous trees. By myself it would take all week, so I'm thrilled to get it all done in half a day! Here's a row of a couple hundred, mostly in 15 gallon pots: __________________ Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com

01-20-2012, 12:22 AM	#160 (permalink)
Richard un-Retired Richard's Photo Gallery Location: Vista, CA Find me on the map! Zone: USDA 10b Name: Richard Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9,674 BananaBucks : 788,215 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 3,636 Times Was Thanked 12,537 Times in 4,719 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,685 Times	Re: In the beginning, the plant site was empty I just finished potting up all my bareroot trees, the last of which were delivered a week ago. That's ... 20 shrubs 145 trees into 70 15-gallon pots 75 5-gallon pots using 100 1-cubic-foot bags of soil 3/4 lbs of powdered mycorrhizae with humic acid 1/4 cup of 6% EDDHA chelated iron 1/2 cup of 10-20-30 with minors and micronutrients approximately 120 gallons of water __________________ Back in business at plantsthatproduce.com

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