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05-29-2011, 09:34 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Anyone ever heard of a banana in the Philippines, that is ripe while still green? My wife thinks it is called "Tukol" in the Ilocano dialect, but I've never heard of it.
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Re: Banana Question
WE have bananas that are ripe when they are still green and they never turn yellow in Thailand too. We call them " gluay hom keaw". Mine are ripe now, the taste is almost the same as the golden one.
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Re: Banana Question
I'm guessing that "gluay hom keaw" is just another spelling of "kluai hom khieo" that I found in a paper on banana names of SE Asia. If so, it is a Cavendish cultivar, which makes sense since Cavendish stay green when ripened in the tropics.
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Re: Banana Question
Try Saba
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Saba are often picked green for use as cooking bananas, but if left to hang will ripen nicely for a dessert banana.
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so you can eat them as desert bananas too? omg i love my saba even more now, i just thought that they were plantains.
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Re: Banana Question
It is called "Bungulan" in most of the Philippines. I don't know what it's called in Ilocano. Called "Monte Cristo" in the English speaking countries. It's very sweet, like fig or raisins, has paper white flesh, and has a very short shelf life, owing to faster ripening once detached from the bunch. Fruit size and shape are very much like Gros Michele.
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Re: Banana Question
I posted this before regarding "Buñgulan", a dessert banana that stays
green when ripe, not picked for consumption while still green. Black sheep of the banana family? |
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Re: Banana Question
Buñgulan is a Cavendish cultivar, thus is green when ripened on the plant in the tropics.
From Daniels 1995: Cavendish subgroup: "fruits greenish at ripeness in tropical conditions" |
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It may be that that description implies that there will be some green on the fruit when it's ripe. Not that it stays totally green when it's ripe. Here is an excerpt from Daniels, Nelson, et al, 2007 regarding Cavendish cultivars, "In equatorial lowlands where the ambient temperatures are high, fruits turn greenish-yellow when ripe, although where temperatures are a bit cooler or when artificially ripened, they turn bright yellow." The Buñgulan stays totally green, whether on the plant or off the plant, or artificially ripened, until it's over-ripe and develops black spots and overcome by it. This is true both from our large mat in our backyard and those that are shipped to my Aunt's store in Manila by the shipload twice a week from Mindanao. Finally, here is another excerpt, from Encanto Farms website, "Bungulan fruit is round, very sweet, seedless and easily rots; has thick peel that is green when unripe and remains green when ripe; flesh is white when ripe; gestation period is 12 months." |
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Chong, very cool. I didn't realize there were any Cavendish cultivars that stayed green even if force ripened like all the bananas we get in the US. I've picked totally green completely ripe Cavendish of some sort off a plant in the Bahamas, but I'd guess if you force ripened them with ethylene they'd have turned yellow.
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