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Old 02-01-2007, 12:06 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Default Re: Ae Ae Albino

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i think she should hit the plant with some high nitrogen fertilizer
Hey Jeff . Do you Guys Sell Fertilizer or do you have one you would recommend ?

I have a plant Thats leaning to one side and last yr it was straight up ?
I know they need fertilizer about this time all of my plants have Doubled and are now with pups . thanks for info and advice Tammy
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Lets add another banana to the list of all white pups. This is an Namwah albino and yep it does have a red midrib. Christian, its great that you are so passionate about this subject. However, albino pups will do nothing more than drain energy from the mother plant and if separated will most likely die as a result(still to be tested on my part). From reports on how other peoples albino pups have done and my own experiment with this one, I can say that its true. Since this pup was allowed to grow(currently at about 5ft), I have noticed that the vigorous of other pups around it declined and at the same time in the last 6 months that I have allowed this pup to grow the matt has yet to produce another new pup.
I will be separating this pup from the mother plant this spring as I believe it has developed a very nice size corm already. This pup has also showed an unstable variegated pattern as it has gone from white to cream to pale green and back. So in combination of both the size corm(lots of stored energy) and its unstable characteristic, it may have a small chance to survive but I will be expecting that it won't make it to next year.


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Thanks Jarred for locating this old post! I wanted to see what's happened since the last post.
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Old 11-15-2008, 06:06 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I am the original poster of this series and I am curious as to what your interest is. You can contact me directly at dochristianrieger@yahoo.com

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Christian, can you tell all of us what happened to this albino pup?

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Default Re: Ae Ae Albino

One of our other members, who has been growing AeAe for over twenty years, indicates that when the variegation ratio contains too much white, he adds nitrogen. This increases the percentage of green in future leaves. However, an all-white sport may be different in its reaction.
I would love to TC one of these white ones to see what comes of it. It can hardly be more sensitive to light than the Dwarf Namwa Pearls that seem to require intensive care wards to maintain life.
It would also be interesting to grow out some all-green AeAe to see if any future pups would be variegated.
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Chironex:
Yes, they will be variegated. And you will get white pups.

Also, in general: a large (plantation) or small (home garden), flat plain is not the natural home of banana plants, neither are pots of any size, though they can live there. So do not expect outstanding results in those conditions.

And to eggo, who said the albino drains the parent of "energy," I say this: that is bone-crushingly obvious. That is why I am so bold as to suggest to leave it there. He has not thought that the purpose of the green and variegated plants is to protect and feed the albino pup. The three are one plant: neither a mutation nor a reversion. Think of it as three-in-one. If this sounds familiar, then there should be no wonderment as to why it was a sacred plant to the original Hawaiians.

It is no different from a baby human "draining" energy from its mother when it nurses. It is called feeding. This is how it grows, which is why you leave it there. Same with the albino ae-ae Hawaiian.

The problem with working with this plant is that humans want to commercialize and make profit before understanding, so we separate and cause death.

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coll pic of albino bananas.
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if we tc ing variegated bananas. only 20-25 % of plantlet also vatiegated almost 75 % become albino. and 2-3 % become green. so far i know like that ( based on my experiences). now i have thousand albino and can not sell they as seedling (in the pot) because they already die soon). so i sell them still in jars as ornamental table. if we subculture variegated plantlets ones, its result also be variegated, albino and green with comparison like above. if we subculture albino, its result 100 % albino and if subculture the green ones, its results 100% green.

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When your cultured green is planted and establishes a colony after about three years, does it stay green or does it produce variegated and albinos?

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they all still in jars. not yet planted on soil (land). so i can not answer your question. but maybe there chance that green will have some variegated pups or albino
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Old 05-10-2010, 06:56 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Pinwheel Re: Ae Ae Albino

More than having a "parent," the albino should be the offspring of a colony of the green and the variegated. When the colony, which behaves like one plant, is large enough, it will support the albino. I have not seen it yield.

Bananas adore a constantly draining soil rich in natural, organic, multi-source nutrition, which is why they do so well two-thirds of the way down a rain-forest mountain.

From what I understand, United Fruit experimented with the albino about 50 and 60 years ago. It is unlikely there are any records around because it would be hard to make the fruit a commercial success, and hence, not kept. Or if kept, are in a trunk in an attic or basement in Central America or Nebraska in the house of someone whose grandfather worked on the project. In any event, I suspect that commercial production is not why the ages passed this plant down to us.
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