Can you chop ensete glaucum to get pups? - Page 2

ArchAngeL01 · 05-21-2009, 07:51 PM

can you tissue culture them like musa?

just j · 05-21-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ArchAngeL01

can you tissue culture them like musa?

yes

LilRaverBoi · 07-16-2009, 03:40 PM

BUMP! Sorry...had to bump this up from the murky depths. Was this every tried? I'd be really interested on whether such a thing works for E. Glaucum or E. Superbum. Right now, I have an E. Maurelii and a very small E. Superbum. I'm a huge fan of ensetes...they're very beautiful plants! I especially like the gentle, sweeping curves of E. Glaucum. For some reason, seeing pictures of them always makes me smile!

Aight...just wanted to see if anyone tried this and what the results (if any) were.

Bob · 07-16-2009, 04:51 PM

I got a couple of these pups from Sandy and one sprouted its own pup. I'm sure it was way down there before hand but so unexpected,pretty cool I think.

LilRaverBoi · 07-16-2009, 05:48 PM

What species....glaucum? Or Maurelii? Or something else?

island cassie · 09-22-2009, 11:46 AM

I think this is e glaucum growing in the grounds of a Thai restaurant here in the DR, with what looks like a pup next to one of them. Is this like yours Bob? Mark - this is the one I tried to show you but they were closed.

LilRaverBoi · 09-22-2009, 12:28 PM

Cool! Thanks for sharing....so there IS hope the, huh?

island cassie · 09-22-2009, 12:34 PM

Wish I knew for sure - mine are only just past the sprouted seed stage.

ClevelandCATHY · 09-22-2009, 01:31 PM

Last winter i put my glaucum in the greenhouse. It died down, and i thought it was a goner. I put the pot on my deck as soon as it got warm enough. It came back up, along with a pup.

island cassie · 09-22-2009, 01:39 PM

So there is hope - and congratulations - they are lovely plants!!

Bob · 09-22-2009, 04:51 PM

Island Cassie actually mine was an E maurelii (my mistake)but yeah it looks similar. I can't take picture of it yet though since it's in the middle of a tomato garden. The pup is shaded and not as big. The plant is I guess about 4' and 7 overall. Here is the post

ensete maurelii red-creating pups ( 1 2 3)

sandy0225 · 09-22-2009, 06:49 PM

I never did get around to chopping that ensete down because it got sold instead. I need some nice fresh seed to try....in a few years.

Bananaman88 · 09-23-2009, 12:14 PM

All Ensete are generally solitary so I can only assume that some injury must have occured to the growing point in order for a pup to sprout on the ones you all mentioned died back and then came up with a pup. Of course, we are talking about nature here and we all know sometimes strange things happen...so who knows for sure. On the TC'd ones I wonder if the TC could even cause pupping on a plant that normally would not pup?

sandy0225 · 09-25-2009, 06:13 AM

I'm sure that the tc chemicals cause them to pup more. I bought some bordelon tc's this spring and they must have overloaded them on whatever chemical causes them to go into the multiplication stage. I still have some of them in the greenhouse because I yellow-tagged them (means hands off--they're mine) in the greenhouse so I can split them up. They have like 8-10 plants roughly the same size coming up in the pots, like a mini clump. I had a margarita that did the same thing and I split it up and made like 10 more out of it. I still have one of them like that too.
I wonder what chemical that is and what would happen if you hit, say an ae ae with it?

revensen · 01-21-2013, 08:53 PM

I have an Ensete Glaucum from seed that's about 1.5 years old and threw a pup! The seeds were from Bananatree.com. Here is a picture of the banana, this photo does not show the pup. The small banana next to the Ensete is a musa itinerans. I will post the pup photo tomorrow after I photograph it in the morning.

LilRaverBoi · 01-22-2013, 01:47 AM

Are you positive that is E. glaucum? Doesn't really look like mine at all.

revensen · 01-22-2013, 07:02 AM

Not positive. Seeds were from bananatree. Here's another image from earlier this summer. The banana has been grown in full Florida sun. When I lived in CR my bananas looked different than they do down here. Post some pictures of your Ensete Glaucum, we can compare.

jmoore · 01-22-2013, 12:47 PM

Not Glaucum, not sure what it is, but definately not glaucum.

The pup is a clue.

Having thought about it, I think it looks like a burmese blue and your itinerans is probably a yunnanensis

LilRaverBoi · 01-22-2013, 03:54 PM

Here's mine at the end of the summer.

Note the upright stature and very waxy white pstem which is characteristic of glaucum.

revensen · 01-22-2013, 05:00 PM

Thanks Jmoore, the little banana on the left was from seed too, seeds were sold to me as a Musa itinerans (Burmese Blue) from rarepalmseeds.com. The banana had amazing color when it was a pup.

Thanks for posting Bryan, that Ensete is beautiful.

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