George

HI
Help how do I over winter in Spain? I saw on English TV that the leaves were cut off and straw placed around the stem, also when should the fruit appear?
Thanks
George

the flying dutchman

Hi George, yes thats a good method with the straw. When they will bloom
is hard to say, it depends on the type as well. Some are faster, others
take longer.

Saludos


Ron

George

Hi Ron
when should I cut the leaves off or should I not? Also there are three pups ranging from eight inches to about four foot should they be covered and the leaves removed?
Thanks
George

the flying dutchman

Remove all the leaves also from the pups and cover as much as possible, put a bag or so on top to keep it as dry as possible.


ron

George

Thanks Ron, at what time of year should I do all of this as one of the pups is still growing leaves?
George

barna

Hola Gorge,

I saw from the members map you are southern then me. My lowest temperatures in winter are -6ºC but only a couple of nights. Now we have -2ºC but temperatures below 0ªC are usually only a few weeks during winter.
I keep my big plants with no protection and i let the death leaves cover the stem and help to protect it. The smaller one are protected with a cylinder made on plastic net and filled with straw


This work yo me for most of the so called cold-hardy bananas (basjoo, sikkimensis, nagensium, chesmanii, yunnanensis) This winter will be the first for some other species (rubinea, maclayii, basjo 'rubra', itinerans, E. glaucum)

I will post some pictures later this winter.

I hope this helps

Conrad

George

Hi Conrad
Thanks for your help and pictures I think I will have to try and get some netting and straw.
George

Fernando

Hola George,

This is the first time that I write in this forum.

I have seen you live in Spain, in Albox. It is in the same region than me. I think it is not very cold in winter.

I live in Cordoba. It is Mediterranean - Z9b although the centre of the city is several degrees higher and here it is frost-free. In any case, the temperatures go down below +5 ºC / 41 ºF very often in winter (until +1 ºC / 34 ºF) and I have to protect the tender plants in similar way as Barna shows. Yesterday night it was very cold and it is not common in November. It went down to +2 ºC / 35,6 ºF. I was not prepared and the plants were not protected. Some plants were slightly damaged. The worst thing is that I had not cut the irrigation yet and several plants with rhizome could be affected (curcumas, heliconias, musas…).

Saludos,
Fernando

barna

Hi All,

I get a disaster in my Garden, temperatures suddenly dropped to -4ºC which is totally unusual in November.

Unfortunately I had not yet protected and they are all completely burned excepted for the Basjoo. I hope the steam is still OK but I will need to wait for some month until spring is coming to know if I lost some of my 'nice' plants. Fortunately they were completely dry and I hope the rhizome will be not affected,

I will have to wait to know what I have really lost.
Other plants like Costus or Zinziber were also heavy burned.:2190:
I am a little depressed but I also know my Alpinias can survive this temperatures with a very few damage. At lest a good new

George,
I hope your temperatures were not so cold or you already had the plant protected. If not do it as soon as possible ¡¡

Conrad

the flying dutchman

That is really strange Conrad, we have not had that low-temps here, i hope
your plants will survive, my alpinia is in a pot in the greenhouse now because I know the corm can survive low temps but it will not flower when it is damaged by frosts.

Good luck





Ron

barna

I know it is difficult to believe but after this low temperatures all my Alpinias are OK only a few have just part of its leaves burned, but their stems are OK

The species I keep are:
Alpinia sp (it is similar to katsumadai but I do not know the species)
Alpinia formosana 'Pinstripe'
Alpinia henryi 'Pink perfection'
Alpinia katsumadai
Alpinia latilabris 'Giant Pink Shell' (this is the most affected)
Alpinia zerumbet
Alpinia zerumbet "Variegated"

Strange but true

Conrad

carlo_musa

Hi!!

I live in Alicante near the sea, and my bananas are good yet but with protection.
In winter the temperature can fall even -1ºC, and the leaves are burned.

where I can obtain musa basjoo in spain??????????????????

gracias a todos and sorry for my bad english

George

HI Carlo
I live in Albox about an hour and a half from you and a bit in the mountains where it dose get cold at times but thanks to others on the site I now have done the same as them and enclosed in straw. Sorry I don't know what type of banana I have I just saw it in a garden centre in Veria about ten Kilomitors away.
George

Fernando

Hola Carlo

I think you could find the Musa basjoo in www.floradeltropico.com (609734686). This musa does not appear in his web but if you telephone him or send an e-mail he will answer to you. Also, another nursery, www.viveroseljardin.com, has some musas and others interesting plants.

Un saludo desde Cordoba,
Fernando

carlo_musa

muchas gracias a los dos.

compré una musa velutina de viveros el jardin y heliconias de floradeltropico.com, las heliconias no van muy bien ya que se están secando las hojas. de todas formas mandaré un correo para ver si me pueden ayudar.
protegí los pseudotallos con plastico y venda de algodón para el invierno.

un abrazo

mskitty38583

hola, carlo y fernando

buenos días. ¿cómo están ustedes? hablo español un poco. soy una estudiante y estudio español. no, no hablo español muy bien. gusto en conocerlo. adiós.

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carlo_musa

hablas muy bien español mskitty

Mark Hall

Conrad if you get Maclayii thru the winter would you be up for swapping a pup ???

I am in the UK.

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barna

Hola Carlo,

I have got my M. basjoo from la bambouseraie in France and from Kobakoba in UK (Sakhalin form). It is a very easy plant to find and I am sure the nurseries Fernado mentioned can have it. You can also check e-bay

Hi Mark

I will be pleased to swap with you a pup o my M. maclayi maclayi but you must keep your fingers crossed until spring


Conrad

carlo_musa

Thank you very much, but, m. basjoo could survive a spanish winter??

hasta la vista