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Old 08-22-2008, 06:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Musa yunnanensis and M. itinerans

Does anyone know a sourse other than Agri Starts for Musa yunnanensis?
Seedsouce preferrably...
and how is it really different from itinerans and itinerans var. xishuangbannaensis?
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Default Re: Musa yunnanensis and M. itinerans

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Old 04-15-2009, 09:07 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Musa yunnanensis and M. itinerans

There are some on Ebay. Both plants and seeds.

As to the differences between Yunnanensis and Xishuangbannaensis, the Xishuangbannaensis grows taller, to 12 m. (second in height only to M. ingens that grow to 15 m.), bleeds red and like Itinerans var itinerans, the pups will generally grow at a distance of up to 2 m. from the mother plant. Xishaungbannaensis has a huge corm up to 1 m. high and 1/2 m. in diameter. These plants can withstand both frost/snow and drought. For these reasons, I really want to try to find one to grow in Las Vegas where both extremes are present.

Following is a description from Markku Hakkinen's reserch in Novon: "Musa itinerans varieties are easy to distinguish from the recently described M. yunnanensis Hakkinen & H. Wang and M. acuminata var. chinensis Hakkinen & H. Wang, as the latter have two rows of ovules per locule, whereas M. itinerans has four (Hakkinen & Wang, 2007)."

The M. yunnanensis had long been mistaken by seed dealers as M. itinerans var. itinerans. It was recently discovered that many of these were actually M. yunnanensis which has auriculate lobes on the leaf bases and pups closer to the mother than M. itinerans. There is another thread about these findings here: Musa yunnanensis officially described!

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Default Re: Musa yunnanensis and M. itinerans

With those 'auriculate lobes' you mean the 'ears' in the base of the leaves right?
I also have a plant bought as itinerans several years ago, suckering close to the mother plant, so I'm suspecting it is yunnanensis as well.
I have yunnanensis seeds from RPS in the germinater now, so we'll see what that gives.

Only thing I can't really name is two rows of ovules per locule...I'll try to find a picture of that to understand exactly what that looks like...
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