Growth in Zone 6 Connecticut - Page 2

stevelau1911 · 09-20-2012, 08:02 PM

I only plan on protecting my main bananas because I want them to get to flowering size which might require them to get up to 20ft or higher. All the other ones can be deep planted and then fend for themselves.

GreenFin · 09-20-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Baboon

Hi I'm new to this forum.I live in Europe,Serbia.It's zone 6.I was reading on this forum about storing banana plants during the winter.I was wondeirng can I store cavendish banana plants this way?

Hi Baboon, welcome to the forum

Yes, Cavendish bananas can be stored over the winter. I've never tried to do it, but I'm sure some of the members here have successfully overwintered them indoors.

There's a tremendous wealth of info in old threads on this forum. I usually click on the "Search" button near the top of the screen, then click on the "Advanced Search" option that pops up, then type in relevant keywords. If you spend a bit of time searching you should find quite a bit of helpful info about overwintering Cavendish bananas. Best of luck!

Baboon · 09-21-2012, 05:54 AM

@GreenFIn thank you! I'll do some searching soon.

Syano10 · 09-21-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by stevelau1911

Shrink or stretch wrap is a flexible type of plastic used to seal boxes so they are water tight, and it is many times stronger than the plastic wrap that is typically used in kitchens. It can be purchased from eBay or any shipping store.

I basically cut the pseudo-stems down to a certain point once they are wilted, and wrap it with enough layers so that water cannot get into the pseudo-stem and rot it out. I would then add the leaf mulch for insulation.

This year, I would rather use the 4ft tall 55 gallon barrels, cut a hole through the bottom, then stick the barrel over the pseudo-stem. I would then stuff as many leaves I can so the the inside never gets that much below freezing. Since my tallest pseudo-stem is up to 7ft tall, I can either add another barrel on top, or simply use plastic bags on top so I can protect all of the pseudo-stem. After it is all stuffed, I plan on putting a large trash over the top part, and then shrink wrap the set up so that moisture doesn't penetrate into the over-wintering set up.

do you have any pics of this it sounds great especially with the barrels

stevelau1911 · 09-21-2012, 08:16 PM

It's still 1-2 months from the time I need to over-winter them because I want to make sure they don't continue growing after I cover them up. I usually wait until November. Here's the steps I plan to take.

1. Shrink wrap the P-stems after cutting the leaves off to make sure that they don't get rotted by too much moisture.
2. Place a 55 gallon plastic barrel which has a hole through the bottom over the whole thing.
3. Stuff the barrel with leaf mulch.
4. If there is more P-stem left, repeat steps 2 & 3 with another barrel on top or a trash bag.
5. Seal the top with a trashbag ensuring moisture doesn't get in.
6. Shrink wrap the entire set up to make sure that it doesn't allow moisture to penetrate.
7. Tarp over everything for even more insulation.

Here's the same exact set up performed by someone on youtube, but they using slightly smaller barrels.
Overwintering bananas - YouTube

Syano10 · 09-23-2012, 06:14 AM

Thanks for the great detail! You said you wait till November? After first frost or ???

stevelau1911 · 09-23-2012, 03:44 PM

I usually wait until after a few frosts, and freezes. Unlike the leaves, the pseudo-stem can tolerate temperatures into the mid 20s, so I usually don't bother protecting it until it is absolutely necessary. One of the problems with covering up too early is when there is another warmup, and it pushes a leaf through the entire setup which ruins all the hard work of protecting it.

I'm not sure if I can successfully protect up to 7ft of pseudo-stem, but it's worth a try.

Syano10 · 09-26-2012, 10:11 AM

thanks for the post. I may do a hybrid of that using the wire cage but wrapping the pseudostem like you said.

then wrapping the whole thing with a tarp and shrink wrap to keep it tight. I know, biggest thing is keeping it dry. Think this will work???

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stevelau1911 stevelau1911's Photo Gallery Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 456 BananaBucks : 144,718 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 51 Times Was Thanked 558 Times in 256 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 24 Times	Re: Growth in Zone 6 Connecticut I only plan on protecting my main bananas because I want them to get to flowering size which might require them to get up to 20ft or higher. All the other ones can be deep planted and then fend for themselves. __________________ I'm in zone 6 upstate NY, specialize in growing temperate cold hardy bamboos(mainly phyllostachys) and starting to get into bananas. my picture website is http://www.flickr.com/photos/31489820@N02/ http://stevespeonygarden.blogspot.com/

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Baboon Location: Belgrade,Serbia,Europe Find me on the map! Zone: 6 Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 22 BananaBucks : 13,456 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Growth in Zone 6 Connecticut @GreenFIn thank you! I'll do some searching soon.

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stevelau1911 stevelau1911's Photo Gallery Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 456 BananaBucks : 144,718 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 51 Times Was Thanked 558 Times in 256 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 24 Times	Re: Growth in Zone 6 Connecticut It's still 1-2 months from the time I need to over-winter them because I want to make sure they don't continue growing after I cover them up. I usually wait until November. Here's the steps I plan to take. 1. Shrink wrap the P-stems after cutting the leaves off to make sure that they don't get rotted by too much moisture. 2. Place a 55 gallon plastic barrel which has a hole through the bottom over the whole thing. 3. Stuff the barrel with leaf mulch. 4. If there is more P-stem left, repeat steps 2 & 3 with another barrel on top or a trash bag. 5. Seal the top with a trashbag ensuring moisture doesn't get in. 6. Shrink wrap the entire set up to make sure that it doesn't allow moisture to penetrate. 7. Tarp over everything for even more insulation. Here's the same exact set up performed by someone on youtube, but they using slightly smaller barrels. Overwintering bananas - YouTube __________________ I'm in zone 6 upstate NY, specialize in growing temperate cold hardy bamboos(mainly phyllostachys) and starting to get into bananas. my picture website is http://www.flickr.com/photos/31489820@N02/ http://stevespeonygarden.blogspot.com/

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Syano10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 19 BananaBucks : 7,681 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 15 Times Was Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 6 Times	Re: Growth in Zone 6 Connecticut Thanks for the great detail! You said you wait till November? After first frost or ???

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stevelau1911 stevelau1911's Photo Gallery Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 456 BananaBucks : 144,718 Feedback: 1 / 100% Said "Thanks" 51 Times Was Thanked 558 Times in 256 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 24 Times	Re: Growth in Zone 6 Connecticut I usually wait until after a few frosts, and freezes. Unlike the leaves, the pseudo-stem can tolerate temperatures into the mid 20s, so I usually don't bother protecting it until it is absolutely necessary. One of the problems with covering up too early is when there is another warmup, and it pushes a leaf through the entire setup which ruins all the hard work of protecting it. I'm not sure if I can successfully protect up to 7ft of pseudo-stem, but it's worth a try. __________________ I'm in zone 6 upstate NY, specialize in growing temperate cold hardy bamboos(mainly phyllostachys) and starting to get into bananas. my picture website is http://www.flickr.com/photos/31489820@N02/ http://stevespeonygarden.blogspot.com/

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Syano10 Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 19 BananaBucks : 7,681 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 15 Times Was Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 6 Times	Re: Growth in Zone 6 Connecticut thanks for the post. I may do a hybrid of that using the wire cage but wrapping the pseudostem like you said. then wrapping the whole thing with a tarp and shrink wrap to keep it tight. I know, biggest thing is keeping it dry. Think this will work???

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