The Frost - Page 10

Abnshrek · 12-10-2009, 01:34 PM

I can't believe this but I put a piece of clear plastic (like a window) on top of one of my banana bags and this banana ((DC) 5ft p-stem) is pushing a leaf and its 40F? I know it was covered by a slab of straw too. I'm amazed

curriedrice · 12-10-2009, 01:41 PM

Tragic morning, my bananas are all suffering frost damage - brown leaves and some with brown stem. I'm happy that the the worse of this frost is over for the time being.

Next year I'm getting a cold shelter!

Eric · 12-10-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Abnshrek

I can't believe this but I put a piece of clear plastic (like a window) on top of one of my banana bags and this banana ((DC) 5ft p-stem) is pushing a leaf and its 40F? I know it was covered by a slab of straw too. I'm amazed

Totally congratulations on the new leaf! That's awesome at those temps! Got new leaves on 2 Orinocos but they're staying even warmer than I am, LOL!

cherokee_greg · 12-10-2009, 02:49 PM

now were goin be a bunch of ducks here

Today: Considerable cloudiness. A few sprinkles possible. High 53F. Winds light and variable.
Tonight: Showers this evening, becoming a steady rain overnight. Low around 40F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 70%. Rainfall around a quarter of an inch.
Tomorrow: A steady rain in the morning. Showers continuing in the afternoon. High 53F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%. Rainfall around a half an inch.
Tomorrow night: Overcast with rain showers at times. Low near 45F. Winds SE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60%.
Saturday: Cloudy with rain. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the mid 40s.
Sunday: Occasional showers possible. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the mid 30s.
Monday: Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the mid 50s and lows in the upper 30s.

cherokee_greg · 12-10-2009, 02:52 PM

[quote=Eric;113739]Sean's right, it's Def winter here, now, in central Oklahoma! (in degrees F):
Mon night 21, Tue 41, Tue night 13, Wed 26. It was even colder, last night!
I went out this morning to check on things and even found this! I thought it was a snowflake but it was definitely an icycle!

wow you have big ole icycles there bro

Patty in Wisc · 12-10-2009, 02:53 PM

Eric, I'm sure your pond plants are fine. I can stomp on the top of mine now & not fall thru ice, & I know those lilies will come up next year

Wind chill here is -20 f now...brrrr

Seaner · 12-10-2009, 05:05 PM

Hi Patty

. Eric's away, for now. He likely won't be home till Monday but I'll pass the info to him. BTW, thanks. I was a little curious myself about the pond plants.
-20F windchill!? OMG! Isn't that the point at which all life ceases to exist!? LOL!
We hit 12F, at 5 am, and that was definitely low enough for me!

Dude! That's one awesome avatar, Greg! But if you're getting that much flood, I'd definitely consider a really nice surfboard for the horse, LOL! If Santa makes it to Redondo beach, let me know and I'll meet you there

!

Abnshrek · 12-10-2009, 09:28 PM

the 2 DC's I checked wrapped with heat-tapes are both pushing leaves so I'm going to redo my plastic after I improvise a a banana cage simular to a tomato cage but wrapped in plastic then the can grow all the hell they want to :^)

Abnshrek · 12-10-2009, 09:44 PM

Wow Patty now I know why I didn't go back up there.. lol That's harsh..
The other tid-bit or reason why I htink mine are pushing leaves is I used black plastic on the bottoms and they attract enough heat besides the heat-tapes to make it feel like a suana in the confines where the banana's are growing.. I figure I mise well make enough stackable cages so I don't have to do anything but maintain them. And a feller down the street told me it would be tough getting the tall corms restarted.. man they haven't stopped.. lol

baruman · 12-11-2009, 11:08 AM

This is my first post. I am in Atlanta. I started with two Basjoo's bought through mail last year and planted them as 9" tall seedlings. They went to mush after the second frost last December and I mulched them heavily. They came back like gangbusters. One grew to 3.5 feet and the other to 2.5 feet and they threw several pups. I just cut them down to 3 p-stems 1 to 2 feet high yesterday. Bubble wrapped all three and mulched about 8 inches high. Hope it helps. It should help that that are on the south side of the house near the foundation.

jwmahloch · 12-11-2009, 11:12 AM

Welcome!!!! You can find lots of usefull information on this site about cold hardy bananas and other plants too.

Seaner · 12-11-2009, 11:19 AM

Abnshrek! That's Awesome! Totally Congrats on the DC leaves! That's a little past survival, dude, you're beating winter! Sweet! Def keep us up on the project. I might wanna try that next winter, myself.

Seaner · 12-11-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by baruman

This is my first post. I am in Atlanta. I started with two Basjoo's bought through mail last year and planted them as 9" tall seedlings. They went to mush after the second frost last December and I mulched them heavily. They came back like gangbusters. One grew to 3.5 feet and the other to 2.5 feet and they threw several pups. I just cut them down to 3 p-stems 1 to 2 feet high yesterday. Bubble wrapped all three and mulched about 8 inches high. Hope it helps. It should help that that are on the south side of the house near the foundation.

Welcome to the site, Jorge! Basjoos are very cold-hardy, even in Oregon & Connecticut, so they should do great! For Georgia, 8 inch mulch should be about right. The main thing is not to let the corm get wet when it's cold. By the end of next summer, they could easilly get 10-14 feet tall.

jwmahloch · 12-11-2009, 11:40 AM

I think the arctic cold snap is over in St Loius for now, 40 day and 50 by Monday. Not below 20 at night for the next week. That will make it much easier to heat my greenhouse. Its amazing how much heat you lose when the temp drops below about 20 degrees.

BananaLee · 12-11-2009, 11:44 AM

Howdy Jorge!!! You're gonna love it here! God Bless ya! BananaLee

BananaLee · 12-11-2009, 11:49 AM

Snow is on the ground now, was really cold this morning, down to 12F!!!!! Hope we don't get another record breaker!!

jwmahloch · 12-11-2009, 11:51 AM

Lee, Hows the weather in Michigan? Any snow on the ground? Its going to be 40 and sunny here today which is nice considering it didnt get above freezing for 2 days.

BananaLee · 12-11-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jwmahloch

Lee, Hows the weather in Michigan? Any snow on the ground? Its going to be 40 and sunny here today which is nice considering it didnt get above freezing for 2 days.

Cold...with a little bit of snow on the ground. Went down to 11F or 12F!!!! Shouldn't get that cold until January!!!! Usually the coldest standing temps are 10F to 5F and only reaching below 0 with a big wind chill, so we're more zone 6/7.

jwmahloch · 12-11-2009, 12:04 PM

Thats about the same low temps that we get in St Louis in the winter. I actually looked up the annual min temps on weather underground and the average min temp for the past 10 years was 5F. So that would mean that St Louis is really in zone 7b (thats in the city). I live in the NW suburbs and it seems to get a little bit colder here but not below zero in the past 3 years that I have lived here, we are probably more like 7a where I live.

I think that when the new USDA zone maps come out the St Louis metro area will be in zone 7 and surrounded by a sea of zone 6. My wifes parents have a second home in the Ozarks and it gets colder there 150 miles SW of st louis.

Seaner · 12-11-2009, 12:51 PM

I was really hoping the new USDA zone map would raise us (central Oklahoma) to like zone 8. Last winter was so mild, I barely needed a sweater for Christmas and the worst we got was in January-February. But even that was only upper teens F (lows) and didn't last long. The way it is now, though, I'm just hoping it won't drop us into zone 6

!

12-10-2009, 01:34 PM	#181 (permalink)
Abnshrek Happy Growing Abnshrek 's Photo Gallery Location: Beaumont Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8b, but 9b weather.. Name: Migael / Michael Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 9,493 BananaBucks : 314,107 Feedback: 45 / 100% Said "Thanks" 10,447 Times Was Thanked 16,443 Times in 5,238 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,318 Times	Re: The Frost I can't believe this but I put a piece of clear plastic (like a window) on top of one of my banana bags and this banana ((DC) 5ft p-stem) is pushing a leaf and its 40F? I know it was covered by a slab of straw too. I'm amazed __________________ I'm a Nannerhead :^)

12-10-2009, 01:41 PM	#182 (permalink)
curriedrice Find me on the map! Zone: 8 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 63 BananaBucks : 26,053 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 53 Times Was Thanked 41 Times in 23 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The Frost Tragic morning, my bananas are all suffering frost damage - brown leaves and some with brown stem. I'm happy that the the worse of this frost is over for the time being. Next year I'm getting a cold shelter!

12-10-2009, 02:49 PM	#184 (permalink)
cherokee_greg Love those bananas cherokee_greg's Photo Gallery Location: Fresno,CA Find me on the map! Zone: zone 9 Name: Greg Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,357 BananaBucks : 362,437 Feedback: 2 / 100% Said "Thanks" 8,066 Times Was Thanked 3,946 Times in 1,665 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 335 Times	Re: The Frost now were goin be a bunch of ducks here Today: Considerable cloudiness. A few sprinkles possible. High 53F. Winds light and variable. Tonight: Showers this evening, becoming a steady rain overnight. Low around 40F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 70%. Rainfall around a quarter of an inch. Tomorrow: A steady rain in the morning. Showers continuing in the afternoon. High 53F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%. Rainfall around a half an inch. Tomorrow night: Overcast with rain showers at times. Low near 45F. Winds SE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Saturday: Cloudy with rain. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the mid 40s. Sunday: Occasional showers possible. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the mid 30s. Monday: Mix of sun and clouds. Highs in the mid 50s and lows in the upper 30s. __________________ Greg zone 9 Fresno,CA http://gardenjot.com/garden/view/1980/Gregs-Banana-Farm

12-10-2009, 02:52 PM	#185 (permalink)
cherokee_greg Love those bananas cherokee_greg's Photo Gallery Location: Fresno,CA Find me on the map! Zone: zone 9 Name: Greg Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,357 BananaBucks : 362,437 Feedback: 2 / 100% Said "Thanks" 8,066 Times Was Thanked 3,946 Times in 1,665 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 335 Times	Re: The Frost [quote=Eric;113739]Sean's right, it's Def winter here, now, in central Oklahoma! (in degrees F): Mon night 21, Tue 41, Tue night 13, Wed 26. It was even colder, last night! I went out this morning to check on things and even found this! I thought it was a snowflake but it was definitely an icycle! wow you have big ole icycles there bro __________________ Greg zone 9 Fresno,CA http://gardenjot.com/garden/view/1980/Gregs-Banana-Farm

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12-10-2009, 05:05 PM	#187 (permalink)
Seaner Banned Seaner's Photo Gallery Location: Denver Zone: 7 Name: Sean Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 164 BananaBucks : 19,186 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 181 Times Was Thanked 57 Times in 32 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 18 Times	Re: The Frost Hi Patty . Eric's away, for now. He likely won't be home till Monday but I'll pass the info to him. BTW, thanks. I was a little curious myself about the pond plants. -20F windchill!? OMG! Isn't that the point at which all life ceases to exist!? LOL! We hit 12F, at 5 am, and that was definitely low enough for me! Dude! That's one awesome avatar, Greg! But if you're getting that much flood, I'd definitely consider a really nice surfboard for the horse, LOL! If Santa makes it to Redondo beach, let me know and I'll meet you there !

12-10-2009, 09:28 PM	#188 (permalink)
Abnshrek Happy Growing Abnshrek 's Photo Gallery Location: Beaumont Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8b, but 9b weather.. Name: Migael / Michael Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 9,493 BananaBucks : 314,107 Feedback: 45 / 100% Said "Thanks" 10,447 Times Was Thanked 16,443 Times in 5,238 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,318 Times	Re: The Frost the 2 DC's I checked wrapped with heat-tapes are both pushing leaves so I'm going to redo my plastic after I improvise a a banana cage simular to a tomato cage but wrapped in plastic then the can grow all the hell they want to :^) __________________ I'm a Nannerhead :^)

12-10-2009, 09:44 PM	#189 (permalink)
Abnshrek Happy Growing Abnshrek 's Photo Gallery Location: Beaumont Texas Find me on the map! Zone: 8b, but 9b weather.. Name: Migael / Michael Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 9,493 BananaBucks : 314,107 Feedback: 45 / 100% Said "Thanks" 10,447 Times Was Thanked 16,443 Times in 5,238 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 2,318 Times	Re: The Frost Wow Patty now I know why I didn't go back up there.. lol That's harsh.. The other tid-bit or reason why I htink mine are pushing leaves is I used black plastic on the bottoms and they attract enough heat besides the heat-tapes to make it feel like a suana in the confines where the banana's are growing.. I figure I mise well make enough stackable cages so I don't have to do anything but maintain them. And a feller down the street told me it would be tough getting the tall corms restarted.. man they haven't stopped.. lol __________________ I'm a Nannerhead :^)

12-11-2009, 11:08 AM	#190 (permalink)
baruman Location: East Atlanta Georgia Zone: 8 Name: Jorge Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 12 BananaBucks : 8,544 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 2 Times Was Thanked 22 Times in 8 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: The Frost This is my first post. I am in Atlanta. I started with two Basjoo's bought through mail last year and planted them as 9" tall seedlings. They went to mush after the second frost last December and I mulched them heavily. They came back like gangbusters. One grew to 3.5 feet and the other to 2.5 feet and they threw several pups. I just cut them down to 3 p-stems 1 to 2 feet high yesterday. Bubble wrapped all three and mulched about 8 inches high. Hope it helps. It should help that that are on the south side of the house near the foundation.

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Seaner Banned Seaner's Photo Gallery Location: Denver Zone: 7 Name: Sean Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 164 BananaBucks : 19,186 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 181 Times Was Thanked 57 Times in 32 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 18 Times	Re: The Frost Abnshrek! That's Awesome! Totally Congrats on the DC leaves! That's a little past survival, dude, you're beating winter! Sweet! Def keep us up on the project. I might wanna try that next winter, myself.

12-11-2009, 11:40 AM	#194 (permalink)
jwmahloch jwmahloch's Photo Gallery Location: St. Charles, Missouri Find me on the map! Zone: 6 - 7 Name: Jeremy Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 217 BananaBucks : 73,075 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 120 Times in 64 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: The Frost I think the arctic cold snap is over in St Loius for now, 40 day and 50 by Monday. Not below 20 at night for the next week. That will make it much easier to heat my greenhouse. Its amazing how much heat you lose when the temp drops below about 20 degrees. __________________ Jeremy

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BananaLee BananaLee's Photo Gallery Location: St. Clair MI Find me on the map! Zone: 6 Name: Call me Lee Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 732 BananaBucks : 170,879 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 439 Times Was Thanked 229 Times in 104 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 22 Times	Re: The Frost Howdy Jorge!!! You're gonna love it here! God Bless ya! BananaLee

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BananaLee BananaLee's Photo Gallery Location: St. Clair MI Find me on the map! Zone: 6 Name: Call me Lee Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 732 BananaBucks : 170,879 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 439 Times Was Thanked 229 Times in 104 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 22 Times	Re: The Frost Snow is on the ground now, was really cold this morning, down to 12F!!!!! Hope we don't get another record breaker!!

12-11-2009, 11:51 AM	#197 (permalink)
jwmahloch jwmahloch's Photo Gallery Location: St. Charles, Missouri Find me on the map! Zone: 6 - 7 Name: Jeremy Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 217 BananaBucks : 73,075 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 120 Times in 64 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: The Frost Lee, Hows the weather in Michigan? Any snow on the ground? Its going to be 40 and sunny here today which is nice considering it didnt get above freezing for 2 days. __________________ Jeremy

12-11-2009, 12:04 PM	#199 (permalink)
jwmahloch jwmahloch's Photo Gallery Location: St. Charles, Missouri Find me on the map! Zone: 6 - 7 Name: Jeremy Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 217 BananaBucks : 73,075 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 120 Times in 64 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times	Re: The Frost Thats about the same low temps that we get in St Louis in the winter. I actually looked up the annual min temps on weather underground and the average min temp for the past 10 years was 5F. So that would mean that St Louis is really in zone 7b (thats in the city). I live in the NW suburbs and it seems to get a little bit colder here but not below zero in the past 3 years that I have lived here, we are probably more like 7a where I live. I think that when the new USDA zone maps come out the St Louis metro area will be in zone 7 and surrounded by a sea of zone 6. My wifes parents have a second home in the Ozarks and it gets colder there 150 miles SW of st louis. __________________ Jeremy

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Seaner Banned Seaner's Photo Gallery Location: Denver Zone: 7 Name: Sean Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 164 BananaBucks : 19,186 Feedback: 0 / 0% Said "Thanks" 181 Times Was Thanked 57 Times in 32 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 18 Times	Re: The Frost I was really hoping the new USDA zone map would raise us (central Oklahoma) to like zone 8. Last winter was so mild, I barely needed a sweater for Christmas and the worst we got was in January-February. But even that was only upper teens F (lows) and didn't last long. The way it is now, though, I'm just hoping it won't drop us into zone 6 !

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