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Old 08-25-2009, 02:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I received my 1 gallon pre-mixed container of FreezePruf today. The wait is over. Let's test this stuff out this winter.
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Please keep us posted on how it does for you. I will be waiting for more testimonials before I am willing to put it on any of my plants. Good luck and will be interested in seeing how it does...
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Does it list ingredients or do you know if it is the bacteria that is suppose to protect plants from freezing?
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Active Ingredients: Polyethylene glycol 8000 2.00%, Glycerin 0.06%
Other Ingredients: 97.94% (Water; Bicyclic Oxazolidines; Silicic Acid, potassium salt; Silicone Polyether Copolymer)
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Interesting! Definitely lets us know how it works--I guess you have to reapply after rain?
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I just pre-ordered my FreezePruf. It would be interesting to see how well it works.
I've communicated with Dr. Francko before and got great tips for my palms & bananas. I tracked him down to Alabama and he told me he was writing a new book because a lot has been discovered and changed since "Palms Won't Grow Here...".

He has been experimenting heavily with hardiness, so if he says this stuff will work, then I believe it and don't need to wait to hear how it worked for others before I try it myself. It's going to be an interesting winter!

I wonder if there is such a thing as a happy banana dance for these exciting occasions - or am I taking it too far?!?!?!?! =)

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Interesting! Definitely lets us know how it works--I guess you have to reapply after rain?
It should have an effect for six weeks so I don't really think you would need to reapply it after a rain. I think the leaves will absorb it.
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Is this available to purchase? If so, where?
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Thanks. ama(z)on seems to have it at a lower price but no concentrate.
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Interesting! Definitely lets us know how it works--I guess you have to reapply after rain?
It says it's resistant to rain and lasts about 6 weeks. So it should be fine.
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I have a question,
Is polyethylene glycol toxic to animals the way ethylene glycol is?

Dogs and cats get poisoned all the time from drinking antifreeze, does anyone know if this would have a similar effect?

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I don't know but they have "markedly" decreased colon cancer in rats with it. Polyethylene Glycol 8000 and Colon Carcinogenesis: Inhibition in the F344 Rat, Promotion in the Min Mouse -- Naigamwalla et al. 60 (24): 6856 -- Cancer Research

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also cigarettes were promoted as even healthy in the first 20 years since their commercial introduction...
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I just pre-ordered my FreezePruf. It would be interesting to see how well it works.
I've communicated with Dr. Francko before and got great tips for my palms & bananas. I tracked him down to Alabama and he told me he was writing a new book because a lot has been discovered and changed since "Palms Won't Grow Here...".
That is exciting another book will be coming out. The first ne was full of great infromation. I wonder when it will be out?

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I can't wait to hear if this works for you guys. If it does then I can finely grow some of those beautiful hibiscus plants that are not winter hardy here.
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Dogs and cats get poisoned all the time from drinking antifreeze, does anyone know if this would have a similar effect?

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No, it's not as toxic as they are not the same. But, it is still slightly toxic. I'm not going to be using my spray on anything I plan to be eating from. Now we can use pesticides that are VERY toxic. However, freezepruf allows the plant to absorb it, which is good for freezing, but not so good for eating I think
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I was told that polyethylene glycol isn't toxic like that. In fact, it's used as a laxative and the only side effect for overdoses is diarrhea. I think this is being studied for use on food crops too to protect from the damaging freezes some farmers experience once in a while.
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I was told that polyethylene glycol isn't toxic like that. In fact, it's used as a laxative and the only side effect for overdoses is diarrhea. I think this is being studied for use on food crops too to protect from the damaging freezes some farmers experience once in a while.
Well, it's only slightly toxic. Therefore the diarrhea. Although, I think that it may not matter at all as the majority of water to fruit comes from the ground and not the leafs.
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Well, has anyone in the colder zones tried this? So far I think it's too early in my zone. We're just getting into lows of about mid-40s with nice daytime highs of upper 60s to lower 70s. I do have a few questions I wish they would provide faq's for on their site.

1. Since it's absorbed into the leaves, does one have to make sure both sides, top and bottom, of leaves are sprayed? Or is it okay to miss one side?

2. How important is it to spray the trunk well?
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