Extra 7 degrees goes a long way - Page 2

Bananaman88 · 08-04-2008, 12:28 PM

I think you're exactly right, Randy. Most banana leaves are damaged by the slightest bit of frost, though there are some that are a bit tougher. I don't think this product will be able to provide enough protection for those of you that far north. Hopefully I'm wrong though. And as Dr. Franco stated, the problem with overwintering bananas that far north will be keeping the corms from freezing and he doesn't seem to think his product will help with that. The winters are just too long.

tophersmith · 08-04-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy4ut

Chris,
I appreciate the info, but it still doesn't seem to help in the case of bananas in my zone 7. Whether the banana is rated a zone 7 or 8, the foliar damage for either is inevitable with our lows going into the upper teens even during warm winters. Don't banana leaves die with frost or at least freezing temps? If so, then with a 9 degree added protection, the foliage on bananas would die with temps in the low 20's. Am I understanding this correctly, or have I missed the boat completely on it?

No it just means they would keep there leaves longer which I would think would translate into a healthier corm and shorter winter for your bananas.

Randy4ut · 08-04-2008, 03:40 PM

I understand what you are saying and I guess it makes sense. Guess we really won't know exactly how it will affect individual plants until we try it in our own zones and gardens. Hey, for $20, it would be worth a shot...

Bananaman88 · 08-05-2008, 11:56 AM

Oh, yeah. I'd definitely give it a try.

51st state · 08-10-2008, 04:42 PM

When this stuff gets to market can someone post a link as I've gotta try it.

I feel my yearly thanksgiving trip to the US coming on despite the credit crunch

mike · 08-10-2008, 07:09 PM

20.00 sounds better than that 300.00 I spent last fall attempting to get my bananas through the winter with limited success. An extra nine degrees sounds good here bring it on. The longer I have to live without my wife telling me how ugly my banana plants are in the winter the better lol. Please keep us informed on this.

edd82 · 08-11-2008, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 51st state

I hope he's ready for export orders. I'm well up for trying some of that. Could do with it ready for this winter

I second that, it would be great to get some of that for the UK winter

tophersmith · 08-11-2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mike

20.00 sounds better than that 300.00 I spent last fall attempting to get my bananas through the winter with limited success. An extra nine degrees sounds good here bring it on. The longer I have to live without my wife telling me how ugly my banana plants are in the winter the better lol. Please keep us informed on this.

Hey Mike,

Where in Savanah do you live as I would like to retire there and heard that if you are close to water it is pratically zone 9 there. Is this true are is it truly Zone 8 there? I was planning on driving down that way in October let me know if you need a new type of banana (see my trade post).

Chris

mike · 08-11-2008, 06:10 PM

Chris I now live in Hinesville about thirty minutes outside of Savannah. I was born and raised in Savannah until six years ago. My understanding is that we are in zone 8b but don't quote me. I lived on Wilmington Island before moving here. Unfortunately I did not get much into growing until I moved here so cant say. My understanding is that its 8b on the coast also but it should be a couple degrees different. Are you coming to the the fall festival at the Bambo Farm its usually at the end of October? I try and make it every year hopefully this year want be any different.

I have no idea how to get to the trade post.

tophersmith · 08-12-2008, 09:19 AM

I have no idea how to get to the trade post.[/quote]

Mike try this Trade Thread

tophersmith · 08-18-2008, 12:27 PM

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saltydad · 08-18-2008, 12:58 PM

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Randy4ut · 08-18-2008, 01:19 PM

Chris,
You probably have already gotten a similiar response from Dr. Francko, but I just wanted to let you know what I heard from him a couple of weeks ago...

----- Forwarded by Randall S. Armstrong/CLV/Effem on 08/06/2008 08:31 PM -----

"Francko, David" 08/04/2008 10:28 AM

To:
cc:	"Gathings, William" , "Swatloski, Rick" , "Bryant, Chris"

Subject:

RE: Freeze-Pruf

Randy, apologies for not responding sooner, but your email ended up in my junk mail and I only check that weekly or so....

We are hoping to attract a manufacturer/licensee for FreezePruf^TM soon, but other than that I can't advise on availability.

I'm ccing our tech transfer people here at UA with this response so they have a record of your interest, and we’ll keep you posted.

Thanks for the photo link too, and I may be calling on you if and when I do a second edition of the palm book! I’ll let you know also if I can come up and see your plants in person!

-Best,

Dave Francko

Hopefully, it won't be to far off into the future before it is available for us to test out ourselves...Keep each other posted!!!

tophersmith · 08-18-2008, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy4ut

Chris,
You probably have already gotten a similiar response from Dr. Francko, but I just wanted to let you know what I heard from him a couple of weeks ago...

----- Forwarded by Randall S. Armstrong/CLV/Effem on 08/06/2008 08:31 PM -----

"Francko, David" 08/04/2008 10:28 AM

To:
cc:	"Gathings, William" , "Swatloski, Rick" , "Bryant, Chris"

Subject:

RE: Freeze-Pruf

Randy, apologies for not responding sooner, but your email ended up in my junk mail and I only check that weekly or so....

We are hoping to attract a manufacturer/licensee for FreezePruf^TM soon, but other than that I can't advise on availability.

I'm ccing our tech transfer people here at UA with this response so they have a record of your interest, and we’ll keep you posted.

Thanks for the photo link too, and I may be calling on you if and when I do a second edition of the palm book! I’ll let you know also if I can come up and see your plants in person!

-Best,

Dave Francko

Hopefully, it won't be to far off into the future before it is available for us to test out ourselves...Keep each other posted!!!

Randy,

Yes I have had similar conversations with him both via phone and email, aisde from a personal visit the inforamtion was the same.

Steve L · 10-14-2008, 10:46 AM

Any update on this product. I would really like to try it out on my heliconia in the ground this coming winter.

Steve

lt_eggbeater · 10-14-2008, 11:39 AM

I would definatley buy some if its available.

tophersmith · 10-14-2008, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve L

Any update on this product. I would really like to try it out on my heliconia in the ground this coming winter.

Steve

I am meeting with Dean Franko and the VC that is backing him on Oct 27th. Hope to have production ironed out in early November. Sorry it's not earlier. I am trying to work out a deal where we (bananas.org) regulars can get it at a reduced price so keep your fingers crossed.

JCDerrick · 10-14-2008, 01:33 PM

I had never heard of this, but it sounds incredible. Randy/Chris, thanks for your efforts on this - this might be enough to keep my bananas growing all winter.

I wonder if it'd also work on members of the Strelitziaceae family, like White BOP's and Travelers Palm.

GB1963 · 10-14-2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tophersmith

I am meeting with Dean Franko and the VC that is backing him on Oct 27th. Hope to have production ironed out in early November. Sorry it's not earlier. I am trying to work out a deal where we (bananas.org) regulars can get it at a reduced price so keep your fingers crossed.

That would be awesome! I'm also waiting for this product to come out. Thank you for your work on our behalf!

Gerhard

Chironex · 10-14-2008, 03:29 PM

So when is this stuff going to become available? Sure would be nice to get some right away, it would help me by not having to move so many pots inside!!!

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Bananaman88 Bananaculturist Bananaman88's Photo Gallery Location: Houston, TX area Find me on the map! Zone: 9 Name: Brent Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,019 BananaBucks : 217,039 Feedback: 22 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1,339 Times Was Thanked 2,263 Times in 1,178 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 191 Times	Re: Extra 7 degrees goes a long way I think you're exactly right, Randy. Most banana leaves are damaged by the slightest bit of frost, though there are some that are a bit tougher. I don't think this product will be able to provide enough protection for those of you that far north. Hopefully I'm wrong though. And as Dr. Franco stated, the problem with overwintering bananas that far north will be keeping the corms from freezing and he doesn't seem to think his product will help with that. The winters are just too long.

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mike More bananas less stress mike's Photo Gallery Location: Savannah Georgia Find me on the map! Zone: Zone 9 Name: Mike Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 289 BananaBucks : 14,652 Feedback: 2 / 100% Said "Thanks" 0 Times Was Thanked 57 Times in 40 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 0 Times	Re: Extra 7 degrees goes a long way Chris I now live in Hinesville about thirty minutes outside of Savannah. I was born and raised in Savannah until six years ago. My understanding is that we are in zone 8b but don't quote me. I lived on Wilmington Island before moving here. Unfortunately I did not get much into growing until I moved here so cant say. My understanding is that its 8b on the coast also but it should be a couple degrees different. Are you coming to the the fall festival at the Bambo Farm its usually at the end of October? I try and make it every year hopefully this year want be any different. I have no idea how to get to the trade post.

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