Bananas.org

Welcome to the Bananas.org forums.

You're currently viewing our message boards as a guest which gives you limited access to participate in discussions and access our other features such as our wiki and photo gallery. By joining our community, you'll have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Go Back   Bananas.org > Banana Forum > Cold Hardy Bananas
Register Photo Gallery Classifieds Wiki Chat Map Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Cold Hardy Bananas This forum is dedicated to the discussion of bananas that are able to grow and thrive in cold areas. You'll find lots of tips and discussions about keeping your bananas over the winter.


Members currently in the chatroom: 0
The most chatters online in one day was 17, 09-06-2009.
No one is currently using the chat.

Reply   Email this Page Email this Page
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-13-2010, 05:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 130
BananaBucks : 63,911
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 85 Times in 17 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Ensete survive zone6

I was able last year to keep out 8 of 9 Ensete maurellii last winter in the ground with heavy mulching. The plants were cut back and chopped up leaves and compost were placed over top 1 to 2 feet deep. Here is a picture of them returning and growing back to full size.

aroidgrower is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To aroidgrower

Join Bananas.org Today!

Are you a banana plant enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Bananas.org is owned and operated by fellow banana plant enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information. Receive all three issues from Volume 1 of Bananas Magazine with your membership:
   

Join Bananas.org Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 12-13-2010, 06:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
BananaLee's Avatar
 
Location: St. Clair MI
Zone: 6
Name: Call me Lee
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 732
BananaBucks : 150,892
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 439 Times
Was Thanked 229 Times in 104 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 22 Times
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

Let's see if I got this right. An Ensete, in zone 6??? I mean, I'm an adventurist, risk taking gardener, but I NEVER thought of trying an Ensete!!! I thought they were zone 8 or maybe 7??? Maybe I'll try if I have enough room lol. What were you're winter lows? If anyone in zone 6 has success with anything, I am sure to try!!
BananaLee is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To BananaLee
Said thanks:
Old 12-13-2010, 06:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
palmtree's Avatar
 
Location: New York City
Zone: 7b
Name: Alex C
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,016
BananaBucks : 112,373
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1,492 Times
Was Thanked 1,428 Times in 644 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 103 Times
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

I cant see your pic, but the story is enough to have be happy! Im glad they survived for you! You would be surprised what can survive with enough mulch! I have some wandering Jew plants under mulch and they are still green after 19F! They are frost tender plants, but survived quite a bit of it in the past cold week we have been getting!
I think Ill try an ensete too one day! First I got to get my Basjoo to survive though!
Keep us updated on this progress!
__________________
Location: New York City, zone 7b
palmtree is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To palmtree
Said thanks:
Old 12-13-2010, 09:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 130
BananaBucks : 63,911
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 85 Times in 17 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

I uploaded the photos of the plants coming back. The leaves were removed early spring and new growth shown. I figured I would test them sense after 3 years of taking them inside each year they would usually flower in the greenhouse then die so rather than do that I figured test them hardiness.


[img][/img]
aroidgrower is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To aroidgrower
Old 12-14-2010, 04:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
Cold-tolerant collector
 
griphuz's Avatar
 
Location: Netherlands
Zone: 7 - 8a
Name: Remko
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 295
BananaBucks : 87,678
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 317 Times
Was Thanked 290 Times in 114 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 827 Times
Send a message via MSN to griphuz Send a message via Skype™ to griphuz
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

Nice one!
Only downside to this story is that you'll only manage to do this one winter I'm affraid. They'll be so much smaller the year after, and weaker that they will likely not survive another cut-back by the winter.
Please do let us know however how big it gets again in the growing season, you might just get lucky!
Kind regards,
Remko.
griphuz is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To griphuz
Said thanks:
Sponsors

Old 12-14-2010, 04:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 130
BananaBucks : 63,911
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 85 Times in 17 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

Most of the plants reached 8 feet tall after over wintering last season. A few were 10 feet. Watering is the key to over all size on musa and ensete.
aroidgrower is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To aroidgrower
Said thanks:
Old 12-14-2010, 08:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
Puerto Rican Gone Bananas
 
JuniPerez's Avatar
 
Location: Rochester, NY
Zone: 6b
Name: Juni Perez
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 313
BananaBucks : 83,459
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 153 Times
Was Thanked 202 Times in 117 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 13 Times
Send a message via ICQ to JuniPerez Send a message via AIM to JuniPerez Send a message via Yahoo to JuniPerez Send a message via Skype™ to JuniPerez
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

This is what I like to see... everyone says "not possible" and then someone tries and proves them wrong. Congratz.
JuniPerez is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To JuniPerez
Said thanks:
Old 12-14-2010, 08:52 AM   #8 (permalink)
Cold-tolerant collector
 
griphuz's Avatar
 
Location: Netherlands
Zone: 7 - 8a
Name: Remko
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 295
BananaBucks : 87,678
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 317 Times
Was Thanked 290 Times in 114 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 827 Times
Send a message via MSN to griphuz Send a message via Skype™ to griphuz
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

That's quite large! Very nice?
And how big were they before winter? very much bigger or generally the same?

Kind regards,
Remko.
griphuz is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To griphuz
Said thanks:
Old 12-14-2010, 10:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
eric27's Avatar
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Zone: 5b
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 248
BananaBucks : 83,258
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 313 Times
Was Thanked 253 Times in 105 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 11 Times
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

It's really true. I saw those Ensetes in person coming up this past May under the heavy mulch. They really did come back under piles of leaf mulch. I was in total shock myself but they really did look nice and healthy, about 2 feet tall or so at the time.
eric27 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To eric27
Said thanks:
Old 12-14-2010, 10:58 AM   #10 (permalink)
 
BananaLee's Avatar
 
Location: St. Clair MI
Zone: 6
Name: Call me Lee
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 732
BananaBucks : 150,892
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 439 Times
Was Thanked 229 Times in 104 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 22 Times
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

Quote:
Originally Posted by JuniPerez View Post
This is what I like to see... everyone says "not possible" and then someone tries and proves them wrong. Congratz.
Totally true! That's what is so fun about it! That's what I like to do when I get the chance!
BananaLee is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To BananaLee
Said thanks:
Old 12-14-2010, 09:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
Zone: 2b
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 184
BananaBucks : 139,626
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 31 Times
Was Thanked 100 Times in 76 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 5 Times
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

Quote:
Originally Posted by griphuz View Post
Nice one!
Only downside to this story is that you'll only manage to do this one winter I'm affraid. They'll be so much smaller the year after, and weaker that they will likely not survive another cut-back by the winter.
Please do let us know however how big it gets again in the growing season, you might just get lucky!
Kind regards,
Remko.
Does the cutting back weaken the plant? Why? I never thought of that.
Kevin is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Kevin
Said thanks:
Old 12-14-2010, 10:29 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
palmtree's Avatar
 
Location: New York City
Zone: 7b
Name: Alex C
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,016
BananaBucks : 112,373
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 1,492 Times
Was Thanked 1,428 Times in 644 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 103 Times
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

Thats awesome! Im glad they came back so well. I wonder if doing this will delay flowering. For most bananas delaying flowering is a bad thing, but I consider it a very good thing if an Ensete never flowers! It might actually be a benefit to keep it outside during the winter in that case! Right now my ensete is being attacked by aphids so it might be in the ground and staying their next year if the problem worsens! Do you have any pics of its tallest height?
Thanks for sharing!
__________________
Location: New York City, zone 7b
palmtree is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To palmtree
Said thanks:
Old 12-15-2010, 07:02 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
Dean W.'s Avatar
 
Location: Cedar Park, TX
Zone: 8b
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,279
BananaBucks : 251,938
Feedback: 13 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 6,325 Times
Was Thanked 2,130 Times in 972 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 300 Times
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

Congratulations on getting them to survive in your zone.
__________________

Dean W. is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To Dean W.
Said thanks:
Old 12-18-2010, 12:43 AM   #14 (permalink)
 
Location: NH, USA
Zone: 5b denial
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 65
BananaBucks : 28,993
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 18 Times
Was Thanked 81 Times in 38 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 3 Times
Send a message via AIM to tastyratz
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

love it.
Keep track of your temperature lows so you know what it truly survives. A zone 6 survival only counts if its a zone 6 class of a winter. Maybe its just so far been z7 cold? I would love to know. I'm rooting for you.
tastyratz is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To tastyratz
Said thanks:
Old 12-22-2010, 06:19 PM   #15 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 130
BananaBucks : 63,911
Feedback: 1 / 100%
Said "Thanks" 0 Times
Was Thanked 85 Times in 17 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1 Times
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

The year the Ensetes stayed out we got around 3F and stayed below freezing for over 1 month.
I was out today to check on one of my new hybrids. I developed a winter hardy Colocasia's that is black and has survive zone 6 winters for the last 8 years with and without protection. I am sure their will be mixed reviews as it was with Basjoo when it first hit the market. Only mature established plants survive harsh winters and moisture in the soil and exposure can all play a role in how hardy any plant is especially a hardy tropical.

The name of it is Colocasia Madeira. It is a dwarf 3 to 4 foot clumping plant with dark leaves and slightly pink stems. I checked on one today in the ground with no protection and the tubers are pretty much sitting on top of the ground. The tubers were still good and healthy we have had 5F so far and 3 weeks below freezing. All the breeding work is finally paying off with some extremely tough plants. Two other hybrids are also shown in the photos that are now on the market. It will be interesting to hear how well they do for others in different areas. Future work should yield some great new hardy tropical plants for us northern growers.

Photo link

Tropicool Series - a set on Flickr

Last edited by aroidgrower : 12-22-2010 at 06:25 PM.
aroidgrower is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To aroidgrower
Said thanks:
Old 12-22-2010, 07:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
eric27's Avatar
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Zone: 5b
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 248
BananaBucks : 83,258
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 313 Times
Was Thanked 253 Times in 105 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 11 Times
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

I'm going to check on my Colocasia Madeira in the next couple days, along with the other two new ones I got from you-Colocasia Bikini-tini and Colocasia Sangria. The problem is they are not mature plants but I am hoping for the best. I did cover them with about 6 to 8 inches of leaf mulch. The Colocasia Sangria was growing really well up until the freeze hit.

We have spent many days in December below feezeing and only the last couple days went above 32 F. Our lowest temperature so far is 5 F, with 5 lows in the single digits.
eric27 is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To eric27

Join Bananas.org Today!

Are you a banana plant enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Bananas.org is owned and operated by fellow banana plant enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information. Receive all three issues from Volume 1 of Bananas Magazine with your membership:
   

Join Bananas.org Today! - Click Here


Sponsors

Old 12-22-2010, 08:20 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
Location: provo utah
Zone: 6
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 393
BananaBucks : 35,184
Feedback: 0 / 0%
Said "Thanks" 692 Times
Was Thanked 481 Times in 251 Posts
Said "Welcome to Bananas" 23 Times
Default Re: Ensete survive zone6

wow on aroidg's work in EE and nanners! thanks brian..
the thai giants i got from you last yr were huge..and doing just fine in
their winter storing..so far !!!
i think here in utah i have to keep digging and storing.. my biggest
ensete maurelli was over 12' and has a base girth of over 14". seems to
be overwintering fine too..all goes well..next summer hope it gets near
20'.. how the &*^%% im going to get it in to overwinter.. guess i'll just
have to figure that out.. LOL
happy holidays to all...
nannerfunboi is offline   Reply With Quote Send A Private Message To nannerfunboi
Reply   Email this Page Email this Page

Previous Thread: Basjoo cut down to ground level :(
Next Thread: Rough Winter





Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Will this Goldfinger survive? Want Them All Main Banana Discussion 9 11-15-2009 05:30 PM
Will this pup survive? rscotth Banana Plant Health And Maintenance Topics 5 10-22-2009 08:27 AM
Still Think TX Star Can't Handle Zone6? - How About Zone 4? chong Cold Hardy Bananas 40 05-15-2009 03:53 PM
Hope They survive :( bananabuddy Main Banana Discussion 17 12-18-2008 05:33 PM
How young can plants go dormant and survive jackdarook Cold Hardy Bananas 15 04-23-2007 08:04 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:10 AM.





All content © Bananas.org & the respective author.