JoeForBananas

Hello all,

I recently learned that not all suckers are created equal. Is this a sword sucker? Or a water sucker? It initially started with slender looking leaves but as you can see it’s now growing and not sure if I should leave it, or get rid of it.

Any info on this is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Joe

beam2050

sword suuuucker.

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Akula

I see two banana plants in the pot. The smaller of the two I would classify as a water sucker in my patch.

Abnshrek

In my book a sucker is a sucker.. lol

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subsonicdrone

you can separate it and have another plant cut downwards on an angle towards the mother plant to get some corm attached

JoeForBananas

Thanks for your replies. There are 3 other suckers in this pot. I wish I could keep them all but I have too many plants already.

Sorry for the poor quality pics. I’m still leaning how to upload photos.

beam2050

from what i have gleaned in the time i have been here it does not matter what kind of sucker you have.

spear suckers are from a healthy plant. the other is from a distressed plant. i have seen no difference with my limited experience between them, with later growth to be an adult plant. with my limited experience....

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Valor_X

I completely agree with Beam about sword suckers coming from healthy plants.

However I want to add that sword suckers still attached to the mother plant grow way faster and have bigger corms because of that same point.
I have also noticed that existing water pups will remain slow growing even if the mother plant becomes healthy and vigorous.

My Dwarf Cavendish mat is doing extremely well this year. The new mother plants are very happy and green even in extreme heat.
Just in the past 2 weeks they put out ELEVEN pups - all sword suckers.



My Dwarf Plantain mat is also very happy this year.
It just recently put out 4 sword suckers.
The small water sucker on the right has been there since last year and has not grown much even after the mat started becoming vigorous this year.
The sword sucker growing directly next to it just came out and it's already bigger.

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Varieties I'm Growing

From Corm/Pup
Dwarf Cavendish ○ Super Dwarf Cavendish ○ Grand Nain ○ Niño ○ Manzano ○ Raja Puri ○ Tall Namwah ○ Blue Java ○ 1000 Fingers ○ Praying Hands ○ Orinoco ○ Variegated Florida ○ PR Red ○ California Gold ○ FHIA-03 Sweetheart

Plantains
Puerto Rican Dwarf Plantain ○ African Rhino Horn

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Truly Tiny ○ Manzano ○ "Blue Java" ○ Dwarf Namwah ○ Thai Black ○ Veinte Cohol

JoeForBananas

Valor,

Great pics…I can definitely see the difference between the two suckers.

My two banana plants that are potted have put out at least 4-5 suckers each about 2 inches at this point. This area experience a heat wave that lasted two weeks with multiple 100 degrees days in each week. Some leaves scorched and some began yellowing. And soon after that the suckers began to pop up.

Both plants have recovered and are putting out new green leaves about one per week, however, it appears to me that they are not growing of getting taller.

Could the heat stress and maybe the lack of water cause the mother plants to put out the suckers and maybe even stunt their growth?


Thanks for the pics and your reply.

Valor_X

Yes I'm very familiar with extreme heat here in Southern Texas.
We've had near 100F since May with little to no rain at all.
My property has zero natural shade. Full sun all day.

From my experience young plants absolutely get stunted. Even my grass stops growing at 100F.
You need to get creative... you're growing in a container so it can be as simple as moving next to the house where it gets full sun only half the day.

Once they get deep rooted and mature they can tolerate the heat here and still grow. Mother plants help shade the pups and as the mat gets bigger that effect is compounded.

I've been using shade nets to help establish young plants and help them grow.
I just set this up last week for my smaller plants.


Also remember to fertilize!!

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Varieties I'm Growing

From Corm/Pup
Dwarf Cavendish ○ Super Dwarf Cavendish ○ Grand Nain ○ Niño ○ Manzano ○ Raja Puri ○ Tall Namwah ○ Blue Java ○ 1000 Fingers ○ Praying Hands ○ Orinoco ○ Variegated Florida ○ PR Red ○ California Gold ○ FHIA-03 Sweetheart

Plantains
Puerto Rican Dwarf Plantain ○ African Rhino Horn

From TC
Truly Tiny ○ Manzano ○ "Blue Java" ○ Dwarf Namwah ○ Thai Black ○ Veinte Cohol

beam2050

valor; next time you build boxes; lowes sells a stain made by VALSPAR, this particular stain is 6 year, SEMI transparent stain sold in clear, red and cedar.

i have used it for 20 years. it will make your boxes last 8/10 years fully coated. do not use clear, in our sun and heat the clear is next to crap. the cedar to me is the best and when dries the nicest looking.

the shade cloth will do wonders for the pups, you will be able to tell the difference almost immediately. good going.

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beam2050

the first picture was from last night. the second picture is this morning.

these pics are of a monthan from growing bananas from homestead fl.

if you look closely, this morning the water sucker is producing a new cigar leaf.

and if you look real close there is a second water sucker coming up underneath the leaf of the plant on the left in the second pic.

i replanted the monthan 2 months ago. i believe i have some happy water suckers.

click on the thumb nails for a larger picture

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Valor_X

Thanks Beam I'll keep that in mind

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Varieties I'm Growing

From Corm/Pup
Dwarf Cavendish ○ Super Dwarf Cavendish ○ Grand Nain ○ Niño ○ Manzano ○ Raja Puri ○ Tall Namwah ○ Blue Java ○ 1000 Fingers ○ Praying Hands ○ Orinoco ○ Variegated Florida ○ PR Red ○ California Gold ○ FHIA-03 Sweetheart

Plantains
Puerto Rican Dwarf Plantain ○ African Rhino Horn

From TC
Truly Tiny ○ Manzano ○ "Blue Java" ○ Dwarf Namwah ○ Thai Black ○ Veinte Cohol