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barna 12-19-2011 04:30 PM

This is not M. rubinea... ¡¡¡
 
Some years ago I purchased some supposed M. rubinea seeds, and just a couple of them sprouted. Several years latter, only one of this plants survived but obviously it is not M. rubinea.

However this plant has shown a good cold hardiness. It is planted beside my M. basjoo (regular and Sakhalin) and my M. sikkimensis (Red Tiger) and at least it showed the same cold hardiness. I would guess it is a little bit more hardy because the leaves stay green longer and start growing in spring some weeks before basjoo. But of course this could also be due to a microclimate
In any case no idea what species it is.



I take this pictures of the male bud and fruits this morning, could somebody help to identify it?

griphuz 12-19-2011 05:39 PM

Re: This is not M. rubinea... ¡¡¡
 
Can you tell us anything about the size of the seeds? Were they the size of sikkimensis seeds, or velutina seeds?

Kind regards,
Remko.

barna 12-20-2011 05:12 AM

Re: This is not M. rubinea... ¡¡¡
 
I do not remember any thing about its size.... :(

I grew this seeds several year ago and unfortunately I have not a picture of the seeds

I purchased these seeds from Sunshine-seeds or Sementes.de short after they become available.

Gabe15 12-20-2011 10:05 AM

Re: This is not M. rubinea... ¡¡¡
 
It looks lik M. sikkimensis to me.

barna 12-30-2011 06:13 PM

Re: This is not M. rubinea... ¡¡¡
 
Thank you Gabe,

I never ordered seed of M sikimmensis .... but of course at that time they were available from the same shop.

Do you think is a pure one or can be a hybrid? The male bud looks different from the other one in my M. sikimmensis "Red Tiger"

If temperatures do not go lower, there is a possibility the fruits develop seeds and I can then take a picture and post it.

Markku Hakkinen 02-03-2012 02:35 PM

Re: This is not M. rubinea... ¡¡¡
 
This looks Musa ochracea K.Seph. It has been quite rare in cultivation.
Markku.

tony palmer 02-08-2012 01:17 PM

Re: This is not M. rubinea... ¡¡¡
 
Hola Barna,
Musa ochracea, does not have wax on the stem.. unlike your plant!
That said I’m not sure about what variety you have?

Tony

Markku Hakkinen 02-08-2012 03:25 PM

Re: This is not M. rubinea... ¡¡¡
 
There is the type of M.ochracea with the photos at Kew. The wax is not a key for analysing the species. Many species are either waxles or waxy depending o growing area and elevation.


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