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Old 10-25-2010, 09:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I got this plant at Lowe's today. The tag stated that it was Basjoo, which I'm hoping. This is the first time I've seen basjoo at Lowe's here. I was wondering if anyone can Id this. It does look like basjoo but I've had experience with mislabeled plants. I'm also wondering what I need to do to make it look better lol. Thanks









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Old 10-25-2010, 09:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I don`t think that this is a Basjoo, because the petiole wings are missing - or at least not big enough.

But I guess you`ll have to wait for an expert opinion...
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Old 10-25-2010, 11:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks Linda. That's the one thing I didnt want to hear LOL. Thanks
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Looks to me like they're both pups... something must've happened to the pstem and they sliced her down (the faint disc in the middle of the pot). Still an awesome find 'cause Lord knows how many pups are on their way up.
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Thanks Juni. I feel more at ease now because I thought they had mislabeled it and that I got one that wasnt cold hardy. I guess it needs a little care and hopefully it will thrive. I think I saw it earlier in the year and I think it did have a nice sized mother plant on it, but I guess from neglect, it probably died. I thought this whole time that the one now was the mother plant LOL. I hope it gets more pups on it. Thanks again

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Well, you got some pups and hopefully more on the way up, but we still gotta find out if it's a basjoo or not. The petioles do look different than the ones my basjoos have. Lets wait and see what the pro's say.
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I got a reply from someone, and he said that it looks like a basjoo to him because he said that the pups are growing separate from the mother plant unlike most bananas. I had a couple of other people that said the same thing. One said that it needs to grown more for them to be able to tell. I hope it is basjoo
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It looks all the world to me to be a Formosana.It has the dark patches on the pstem, the winged petioles it has no red midrib, which you see on Basjoos, the leaf shape.

I could of cause be wrong, I have a Basjoo and Formosana growing next to each other and it looks more like the Formosana than the Basjoo.The two have been confused in the past.
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I've never heard of Formosana, but I'm still new to banana plants lol. I emailed Gabe and he said that it looks like basjoo to him.
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Hi,
The plant is most probably M.basjoo eventhough it is a suffered individual. Look the out turned petiole wings in the third photo which is very ominous to all M.basjoo variants.
It does no look M.itinerans var. formosana at all.
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Wasn't formosana classified as a var. of Musa basjoo? so if it's formosana, it's still a basjoo and still cold hardy.
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Hi Marrku,
Thanks. I really hope it survives. I have it in partial sun right now and I watered it a little. I'm hoping it survives, luckily it has 2 other pups on it.
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Thanks Juni. That's the main attribute that I want. As long as its cold hardy I'm fine with it =)
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M.formosana had errorneously classified as M.basjoo variety somewhere in 1985. It is now corrected. See IPNI (The International Plant Names Index).
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The plant is most probably M.basjoo eventhough it is a suffered individual. Look the out turned petiole wings in the third photo which is very ominous to all M.basjoo variants.
It does no look M.itinerans var. formosana at all.
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So Formosana is a variant of Itinerans? Now that's very interesting
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There is no M.basjoos in Taiwan but there are number of M.itininerans varieties. Some of them are not described yet. In addition there are Musa balbisiana varieties.
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All hello! In the literature and at forums, the information often comes across to me that Musa basjoo and Musa formosana belong to one version and is even more often them confuse as one version. At me these two bananas grow and they very much differ from each other. I will present some pictures Musa formosana for comparison.









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The DNA and morphological analyses indicates very clearly that var. formosana belongs to the M.itinerans group and M.basjoo is a disticnt species.
Secondly seed collectors normally cannot identify the species so one can have the seeds from unknown species.
Thirdly one can very sheldom find wild species mature fruits with seeds from their natural habitats as they are eaten very fast by animals. Normally we collect the whole unripe bunch of fruits and let it to ripe in order to have seeds.
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Markku,

How is M. formosana's as far as cold-hardiness goes? Surely if some come from high up the mountains, there must be good tolerance, yes?
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I don't think that it is not so cold tolerant as M.basjoo. I based on this from my experience from the other M.itinerans varieties.
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