Does plum 'Pozegaca' fruit on the coast?

[Richard]

Hey European members! Does the plum 'Pozegaca' need a long cold winter to bear a good crop, or does it produce well near the Mediterranean coast?

[Jack Daw]

Originally Posted by Richard

Hey European members! Does the plum 'Pozegaca' need a long cold winter to bear a good crop, or does it produce well near the Mediterranean coast?

I have never seen plums, apples, pears or anything like that at the coast in Meditterranean, it's just too warm and DRY! for them there. From the name it could be a German or northern Slavic variety(?)... Our usual winters last 3 months (with below 32°F temps) and the general rule is that if you can grow peaches somewhere with limitations (e.g. too cold climate), then it's almost perfect conditions for plums, which require more or less strong winters.

So to answer your question: No, I haven't seen a plum in warmer area here, but I can't say for 100% that there's none in the M. sea area.

Plums are a delicacy here, one of the endangered species though, there's a cold liking illness called "Šárka" or transcribed as "Sharka", which eliminated proffessional production in Central Europe. Therefore people grow it only in Northern parts here (Ukraine, Poland...).

If you once get Sharka in your garden, you have to cut down all infected trees (susceptible are peaches, plums...) and burn the roots along with the wood. If you intend to get a graft from someone, be sure not to get infected material.
Also, ideal time for grafting would be in May (when it literally wakes up here).

And there's one special drink we make of it (52% and more % of alcohol, sometimes even dangerous 75%, 85%... some people appear in hospitals after drinking uncertiphied Slivovica (Plum Brandy)...) Also a sport around Slivovica was brought here by Russians during WWII (drinking flaming burning Slivovica aka Marshal Marinovsky!):

YouTube - Pravá Moravská Slivovica

From one of Czech movies (it's about a village boy who inherited a lot of money). It shows, how slivovica has always been a drink of poor and uncivilized people here. Usually home-made too.

YouTube - Dedictvi aneb kurvahosigutntag #10

[Dalmatiansoap]

Originally Posted by Richard

Hey European members! Does the plum 'Pozegaca' need a long cold winter to bear a good crop, or does it produce well near the Mediterranean coast?

Oh no, Richard,
Magyar issue again?
Anyway Požega is town in costal Croatia in Slavonia region wery famous in plums and wine industry.
I myself expirienced one winter with -14C up there and snow that last for month. It needs cold weather deffintivly.

[Jack Daw]

Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap

Oh no, Richard,
Magyar issue again?
Anyway Požega is town in costal Croatia in Slavonia region wery famous in plums and wine industry.
I myself expirienced one winter with -14C up there and snow that last for month. It needs cold weather deffintivly.

But that's continental Croatia Ante. Unlike the warm and dry coastal Croatia, continental Croatia is perfectly the same winter conditions as mine... Magyar issue? P.S: Richard, he meant Hungarian issue. So the viticulutre is understandable too. ALthough many people don't know it, Slovaks are in viticulture nr.2 after the French in Europe. Ante, Pozega is a town in every Slavic country.

[Dalmatiansoap]

Hey Jack
Richard will understand me perfectly well. Right Richard?
Yes, Požega is in same region as U R. Vally sorrounded with mountains.
I think maybe zone 7.

[Jack Daw]

LOL, I'm usually zone 8. But only thanks to global warming. It wasn't like that 10 years ago.

[Richard]

Wow, that is very helpful. I did not know that it snows on the coast of Croatia.

My source for this plum is the repository at University of California, Davis. They have several strains of the Pozegaca plum donated by Nada Kapetanovic, Sarajevo in 1982. When ripe, the flesh is green and very sweet. Some are fine-textured and others are coarse-textured. In the notes for these plums it says "This is the plum that Slivovitz (Yugoslavian alcoholic beverage) is made from".

[Dalmatiansoap]

Originally Posted by Richard

Wow, that is very helpful. I did not know that it snows on the coast of Croatia.

Hahaha, my fault, it should be written "continental"
I have to learn a lot more, my English is still very bed . Yes Richard its mostly used for making alcoholic drink called Šljivovica. But Jack Daw knows better about that.
My alcoholic brand is tasted allready from several members here and it has got all A+
BTW about snow here, it happends every few years and than it is like public hollyday. U can even get free hotel arrangments if snow falls while U R here .

[Jack Daw]

Originally Posted by Richard

Wow, that is very helpful. I did not know that it snows on the coast of Croatia.

My source for this plum is the repository at University of California, Davis. They have several strains of the Pozegaca plum donated by Nada Kapetanovic, Sarajevo in 1982. When ripe, the flesh is green and very sweet. Some are fine-textured and others are coarse-textured. In the notes for these plums it says "This is the plum that Slivovitz (Yugoslavian alcoholic beverage) is made from".

Slivovitz is Slivovica in aaaaaaaaaaall Slavic cultures.
Vodka is compared to it like Lemon juice. Oh Sarajevo, sweet memories there. LOL. We got rid of the Habsburgs there. Although some still live in Slovakia, they are powerless now. Rich though.

Croatia is one of those wonderful countries that has everything. A sea and mountains. They miss only one thing. Carpathian Mountains. For skiing.

[Richard]

I grew up with the Lake Balaton brand of Plum Brandy, Peach wines, and the famous grape wines.

[Jack Daw]

Originally Posted by Richard

I grew up with the Lake Balaton brand of Plum Brandy, Peach wines, and the famous grape wines.

130km from me to south. But Richard, really, as a x% Hungarian I must say: Slavic plum brendys are much better. And you have much worse head-aches from them. And I'm not talking about hangover.

[jeffreyp]

Originally Posted by Jack Daw

I have never seen plums, apples, pears or anything like that at the coast in Meditterranean, it's just too warm and DRY! for them there. From the name it could be a German or northern Slavic variety(?)... Our usual winters last 3 months (with below 32°F temps) and the general rule is that if you can grow peaches somewhere with limitations (e.g. too cold climate), then it's almost perfect conditions for plums, which require more or less strong winters.

So to answer your question: No, I haven't seen a plum in warmer area here, but I can't say for 100% that there's none in the M. sea area.

Plums are a delicacy here, one of the endangered species though, there's a cold liking illness called "Šárka" or transcribed as "Sharka", which eliminated proffessional production in Central Europe. Therefore people grow it only in Northern parts here (Ukraine, Poland...).

If you once get Sharka in your garden, you have to cut down all infected trees (susceptible are peaches, plums...) and burn the roots along with the wood. If you intend to get a graft from someone, be sure not to get infected material.
Also, ideal time for grafting would be in May (when it literally wakes up here).

And there's one special drink we make of it (52% and more % of alcohol, sometimes even dangerous 75%, 85%... some people appear in hospitals after drinking uncertiphied Slivovica (Plum Brandy)...) Also a sport around Slivovica was brought here by Russians during WWII (drinking flaming burning Slivovica aka Marshal Marinovsky!):

From one of Czech movies (it's about a village boy who inherited a lot of money). It shows, how slivovica has always been a drink of poor and uncivilized people here. Usually home-made too.

There is hope, "sharka" is also known as plum box virus. It's virtually unknown here in the USA, there have been a couple places where it was found in north america but very isolated. I thought you would like to read this article...

One Gene Makes the Difference—for Plum Pox Resistance