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curtis9909
06-12-2007, 11:54 AM
I bought it on ebay not sure if it is a true Ae Ae. I think I post the photos in my gallery. ( I'm new at this)

MediaHound
06-12-2007, 12:06 PM
Howdy Curtis

visit your gallery
click any thumbnail
under each big picture there is the code you can copy
then paste it here in the thread

you want the code for bulletin boards - there's a few formats offered

curtis9909
06-12-2007, 12:13 PM
Here are the pics
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=3413&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3413&ppuser=839)


http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=3414&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3414&ppuser=839)url=http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=3415&ppuser=839]http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=3415&size=1[/url]

MediaHound
06-12-2007, 12:19 PM
Looks like a nice healthy Ae Ae to me.

Looks like it can handle a good amount of sun, too.

Nice pics!

curtis9909
06-12-2007, 12:21 PM
Are you sure? Some of the leaves have only s slight veriegation on them.

curtis9909
06-12-2007, 12:29 PM
Should I move it to a more shaded area. I was told full sun when I bought it.

MediaHound
06-12-2007, 02:32 PM
This is what it would look like if it were burned:
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=66&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=66&si=ae)

I took that photo at tlturbo's place.
That was a plant that needed to be acclimated to the sun.
Wherever yours is located, it's doing great. You could probably get away with even more sun on yours as it has a lot of green and it would produce more energy and grow faster, and all the merits that would subsequently bring...

bigdog
06-12-2007, 09:53 PM
What banana? All I saw was that super-nice pool and hot tub! Wow! Wish I had that in my backyard, Curtis. I'll bet you get a lot of use out of it!

Nice Ae Ae, by the way (ok...I did see it).

Raules
07-09-2007, 08:49 AM
Look, that at me has ascended from a seed. What is it? similar on Musa Ae-Ae. Ordered seeds Musa Rojo zebrina, and this miracle has grown here. Who knows, prompt please.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=4100&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4100)

xyzzy
07-09-2007, 10:15 AM
It probably doesn't actually have a name. I expect you have the first of a new variety.

Nice plant if it keeps going.

Gabe15
07-09-2007, 10:15 AM
Raules,
that is a sick or weak plant. it is not a healthy seedling.

xyzzy
07-09-2007, 10:28 AM
I would wait and see what it does.

I have a M sikkimensis which turns yellow/cream with dark green veins so stripey every winter and grows normal green with red markings in summer. I know it is caused by it struggling in winter, but it always makes it through and keeps it's stripey yellow/cream/green leaves topped by the new red and green ones above which looks quite good in summer. Not all faulty leaves are non viable as my stripey ones happily take the hottest of the summer heat without burning.

mrbungalow
07-09-2007, 04:07 PM
As far as I understand, there are 3 possible reasons for variegation:

1. It's genetic from seed. A small percentage of seed-grown plants will have this trait.

2. It shows up on a polynesian cultivar (Hua Moa?) occasionally, And this is what we know as AeAe

3. Virus or disease cause the white streaks, sometimes mistaken for variegation.

As far as I can see, AeAe is something really special with it's outstanding contrasts. Curtis' plant does not look like AeAe, but another variegated cultivar. I agree, Raoles plant looks sick, so get rid of it before it affects your other plants!

jnstropic
07-09-2007, 05:42 PM
As far as I understand, there are 3 possible reasons for variegation:

1. It's genetic from seed. A small percentage of seed-grown plants will have this trait.

2. It shows up on a polynesian cultivar (Hua Moa?) occasionally, And this is what we know as AeAe

3. Virus or disease cause the white streaks, sometimes mistaken for variegation.

As far as I can see, AeAe is something really special with it's outstanding contrasts. Curtis' plant does not look like AeAe, but another variegated cultivar. I agree, Raoles plant looks sick, so get rid of it before it affects your other plants!


The Ae Ae never has seeds.
I have grown Hua Moa and it is totally different.
I doubt that it is virus. After growing the Ae Ae for 40+ years it looks healthy and none of my other nearby plants seem to be virused.

The Ae Ae is a chimera and can not be cloned (google the word chimera) because you will get a total green or a total white plant. We hear about people going to clone the Ae Ae, but it never happens. Those that try it might as will eat all the Ae Ae fruit they can to find a seed. Some of you know that I produce good fruit on healthy plants that are in full sun and in alkaline soil - well watered and well fertilized. And yes the white parts sunburn, the price that you pay for good fruit.

The pup will get a higher percentage of green if it is fertilized with potassium nitrate. I have been using potassium nitrate to strengthen the plants damaged by hurricanes, and it seems to work. I will continue to post the progress of my newest pup.
http://togofcoralgables.com/AeAebananas.aspx

bigdog
07-09-2007, 09:57 PM
Look, that at me has ascended from a seed. What is it? similar on Musa Ae-Ae. Ordered seeds Musa Rojo zebrina, and this miracle has grown here. Who knows, prompt please.
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=4100&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4100)

Raules,

That is chlorosis, not variegation. I would give it a good shot of fertilizer, set it outside in full sun (after acclimating it first, if it has been inside), and wait. It should green back up again.

I think

Gabe15
07-09-2007, 10:07 PM
As far as I understand, there are 3 possible reasons for variegation:

1. It's genetic from seed. A small percentage of seed-grown plants will have this trait.

2. It shows up on a polynesian cultivar (Hua Moa?) occasionally, And this is what we know as AeAe

3. Virus or disease cause the white streaks, sometimes mistaken for variegation.


From what I have researched, Ae Ae is very similar to Popoulu, and is a somatic mutation, not from seed (it occurred after the period of seeded edible bananas), and definetly not a virus induced variegation.

Raules
07-09-2007, 11:14 PM
Hi! It costs at me on the most solar place. Grows since March, sowed in the good impregnated ground, rates of growth as well as at other shoots. Really something does not suffice it? I shall put it separately from everything, suddenly it is a virus. And there can be it a grade such all? Later To photograph also I shall lay out a photo.

mrbungalow
07-10-2007, 12:31 AM
I am sorry, I made myself unclear again:

I am talking about all variegated bananas, not just AeAe. Thanks for correcting me on AeAe beeing similar to Popoulu and not Hua Moa.
And after the discussion about ae-ae seeds, I wouldn't dare to suggest ae-ae has seeds! he he :2190:

I have on the other hand, heard of pathogens that cause variegation. And this winter when growing from seed, a couple went variegated. Musa Flaviflora was the most common one to variegate.

xyzzy
07-10-2007, 04:09 AM
I think Raules plant is just unhappy because it's conditions do not suit it. I have had bananas plants do this if in too small pots. I doubt it has a virus which could infect other plants.

Raules
07-10-2007, 05:09 AM
Too it seems to me, that here there is no virus. Then I shall try it to replace in other pot, we shall look, that will change.

Raules
07-12-2007, 06:27 AM
All thanks for the help. Yes this banana is really sick. The new appeared leaf has appeared less previous. It does not have not enough probably certain elements. I shall treat and hope it will recover.

curtis9909
07-12-2007, 10:33 PM
Here is a better pic of a new leaf. What do you think?



http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=4128&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4128)
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=4131&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=4131)

Raules
07-12-2007, 11:26 PM
curtis9909, At you very beautiful plant!

MediaHound
07-13-2007, 12:12 AM
She's beautiful :guitarris

Raules
09-06-2007, 03:38 AM
All hello! My patient Musa has recovered. I have replaced it in a mix of the ground and humus and have added a drainage. New sheets appear already healthy. I hope now it will be good to grow. All of success!:bananas_j

Raules
09-06-2007, 03:47 AM
http://www.bananas.org/gallery/watermark.php?file=5208&size=1 (http://www.bananas.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=5208):2140: :discocrazed: