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Originally Posted by pukpukz
I need to step in here Taylor truly tiny/little prince/super dwarf cavendish are not the SAME !!! The Super Dwarf is a heavy Producer of Bananas and only get 3 to 4 foot tall, the Truly tiny has not produce for me and I have some in ground even . So I don't what research you have read But I grow them . When growing Banana in containers you need to deal with Mature height so it has time to fruit it takes 120 days most of the time after the bloom
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All the wine stain variagated super dwarfs came from a radiation experiment close to the time the Soviet Union fell. This radiation test on musa Dwarf Cavendish was done by a Russian seincetist. He died not long after the test due to the tests radiatation poison from what I've read/remember.
They called this variety that came from the radiation test Musa Novak. This Musa Novak is Super Dwarf Cavendish. It CAN fruit but is not a reliable fruiter (does everyone of yours fruit every year?) I have had both varieties and neither have fruited. One in a pot for a year then in ground. Afterwards they have been in ground since. I was stating my observations.
Both "Truly Tiny" which is not patented I believe. And "Little Prince" which is patented. Both are mutations from the Musa Novak or SDC. They may have other charistics like being smaller. Leaves acting different ways, etc but all are Mutated SDC/Novak.
Over the years I've seen other gimmick names to sell them as different types. Like poquito, bananarama, Tropicana, chela, etc. But all are Cavendish. No matter what they say on the description like I've read truly tiny will fruit in zone 7. These are ways to sell this bannaa.
If all you want is a cute looking plant that is hard to fruit then go far it. I like they way they look. Very unusual bananas. But to fruit or have a chance fruit, there is so many other varieties. And living in NY having a AAA most cold sensitive subgroup I grow (since there is mutations) I didn't think it was a good idea. To survive or ever have a chance to fruit.
Pukpukz, you really recommend this for fruit in NY? You have a winter like me although not near as severe as mine. All my Cavendish types go dormant at about 50-55F. A potted dwarf Orinoco would have a way better chance. Even if it's a slim chance for him. I know lots of northern growers who have at least flowered dwarf Orinoco. Some even harvested fruit.
And you claim a "heavy" bunch. How many lbs? I'm really curious. Out of 4 years I finally got my in ground gran nain to fruit last year. It weighed 55lbs. So I could see an extremely heavy bunch "for its size" from another cavendish type.
Here is the patent for Little Prince stating it's a dwarf cavendish type. Not Brazilian or anything people make up for sales.
United States Patent: PP15255
Next the is a page by several legendary banana experts. Note at the bottom he talks about the very dwarf variation in Cavendish. They also explain the radiation accident in detail. And the quote at the bottom of the page stating as they should not designate all these variations. And that this "Musa Nana" is not a good species.
Musa cavendishii
Next even our own bananas.org wiki page specifies the SDC in the above paper:
Musa Super Dwarf Cavendish - Bananas Wiki
In case the experts don't count even Florida Hills Nursery knows truly tiny is a mutated dwarf cavendish:
http://www.floridahillnursery.com/ba...ve-plant-p-254
If anyone needs more proof or to read all the posts on how hard they are to fruit and grow in colder areas just search our forums. It seems the only people recommending this banana is people who sell it. I grow it and I do not even sell it due to the performance issues. You can call me a professional seller but I am not. All my common bananas are $10 plus actual shipping. That hardly covers the effort to dig, wrap, and ship them. Plus the countless hours helping everyone I send them to. I do this because I am passionate about bananas and to try and help new growers get the correct plants they want. Even if I wanted to sell Little Prince I don't have a license and it would be illegal since it's patented by its owner Randolph Salter and his nursery.
From the pics it looks like you have huge rows of plants. Man that's a lot of pups to dig and sell. I can hardly dig 1-2 and my back is about to give out haha. Good for you though.
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