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Originally Posted by harveyc
Andreas, you posted a link to a March 2013 article that explains that some scientists believed that the decline of Arctic ice in the fall of 2013 lead to the cold winter of 2012-2013. Later in this thread it was posted how Arctic ice in August 2013 was greater than the prior two years so use of that article to explain the current cold weather in the USA really doesn't seem appropriate (much less to explain the comment about summer snow in Australia).
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That does not invalidate my point about the climate vs. weather fallacy. The fact that the climate is changing does not mean that there will not be cold snaps. It's part of our planet's natural variations in weather patterns. And look at all of the warm weather events. Take for example how last summer in Australia was the hottest on record. Or that record drought we had in the Midwest last year.
Plus, the
Arctic sea ice this November was still lower than average. Scientists have already linked this to colder weather extremes in northern continents. I'd argue that this was a contributing factor to the arctic air blast that we are on the tail end of now. I may have posted an article about an earlier date, but that article
nicely sums up scientific research that happened to be a bit more relevant at the time that it was posted, but it is still very relevant now. Bottom line is that there's no arguing that our climate isn't changing. People just seem to have attached this "global warming" label to it and then jump whenever there is a colder than usual weather event, while completely ignoring the larger trend, and thus the bigger picture. Climate denialists are just like the frog that is placed in water that is slowly heated to a boil. They won't wake up until they've already been burnt alive.