Originally Posted by Darkman

These are under are really dense and high Live Oak canopy. Other than just an occasional glimmer of the Sun they get no Sun whatsoever. I'll try to measure the trunk this morning and see what diameter and height it is. I have several mats in full Sun so we can compare them against each other. In shade it has grown slower than the ones in Sun but the bonus point is that it has not received any frost damage for two Winters.