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Tony (sunfish) makes the excellent point that Flying Dragon is almost exclusively cultivated as a root stock. Certainly if I had Flying Dragon seedlings I'd graft them over with something like Sweet Lemon or something else that benefits from a non-aggressive root stock. In breeding programs, grapefruit and other large citrus have a 10 year cycle: this is from budset on the host plant to an offspring that is mature enough to produce regular crops and demonstrate the characteristics of interest in the breeding program. |
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Before the development of Flying Dragon, regular P. trifoliata was used as a dwarfing rootstock.
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So in the photo with the motorcycles, the size of the fruits range from an inch to 1.25 inches?
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Yes, Richard, that is about right. The largest ones may reach about 1 1/2 in dia.
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I have a friend who told me she had this ornamental orange with insipid tasting fruit. So I took a look at it and it looks to me like the Flying Dragon root stock took over and it is a Flying Dragon tree now, full of long thorns, trifoliate leaves and lots of ugly looking fruit. and yes I tried them they taste pretty bad but you might be able to make a orange aid from them??
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Well, these ornamental Quất are pretty tasty, that is how I managed to "harvest" over 200 seeds, while getting only an average of about three seeds/fruit. :) |
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After 7 weeks finally some signs of life
Well, the ‘signs of life’ occurred about 5 or 6 days earlier, but I wanted to make sure, that I was not fooled again. I am still puzzled, how out of this convoluted mess a respectable citrus tree can emerge. That is one out of the four, which I had soaked on March 15 and planted on March 16 in peat moss pots. Later, following advice, I transferred 2 of them into plastic bags with some moist peat moss. Since I had to handle these bags for inspection (the peat moss caked around the seeds and made it difficult to find them), the seeds tumbled around a lot. Since it occurred to me, that this could not be good, I transferred the two survivors once again into little pots, covered them only very lightly with peat moss and the whole thing with Saran Wrap, thus hopefully providing the same humid environment as in a plastic bag. That is also the method I am now using on the 5 (out of 6) survivors of the next badge. The high mortality rate is mostly attributable to clumsy handling and inexperience on my part. :( |
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Well, there is some order in that chaos after all. :) It comes now much closer to my image of
a viable sprout. As wee as this little citrus is (see penny), it was butting up against the saran wrap already. So I removed the wrap for a somewhat less humid environment. This is so far the only one of the first four seeds. Two were victims of my clumsiness. Once they come close to sprouting these seeds are extremely tender. That is another reason, why I would not use the plastic bag method again. The handling is just too rough on the tender seeds in the pre-sprouting phase. |
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I just came across this thread. If I understand it correctly, you imported citrus seeds into the USA from Vietnam and that is prohibited. I'm not going to take the time to search the APHIS information now because I've done it before and know it to be the case. In addition, there is more than a slight chance that you could have imported seeds that were carrying HLB disease. I suggest that you destroy them and ask anybody you have shared them with to do the same. This is serious and USDA officials will certainly come visit you if they get wind of this. I know someone who once imported palm seeds without a permit and the USDA officials that paid him a surprise visit was a scary experience for him.
EDIT: I just saw you're located in Canada so USDA definitely won't come visit you and I don't know what the Canadian regulations are in regards to importation of citrus seeds. There certainly isn't a citrus industry they're trying to protect. I just hope you didn't send any seeds into the USA. |
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My aunt from Pennsylvania (who is Vietnamese) grows the Quat in a pot. It's been growing now for at least 10 years. She brings it outside during the summer and indoors in the winter. It's nowhere as big as the potted Quat that was posted on this thread.
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In regards to Harvey's post, he is correct about importation of seeds. See link below. There are a lot of countries listed and Vietnam is one of them.
Federal Register, Volume 75 Issue 65 (Tuesday, April 6, 2010) |
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about 6 months, all including the Tet season, when the Quất are the most prominent. One of the advantages is that it is so small, that you can do, what your aunt is doing and still have the full display of fruit in a very small plant, which still fits into any home, even when it is quite a few years old. BTW, if you are interested in the plant yourself, you might want to ask Harveyc if it would be okay if your aunt let you have some seeds from a tree, which has been in the States for more that 10 years. |
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Unfortunately, no citrus are allowed into California without going through quarantine (after having an import permit). If there is sufficient demand for it, you might contact UC Riverside to see if they would be interested in importing a scion from PA. They typically clean up other diseases (not HLB) by propagating from very young tip growth where the diseases have not yet had time to develop yet. I'm somewhat surprised this hasn't been imported already as they have quite a few: UCR: Citrus Variety Collection
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The "Marumi" kumquat is Fortunella japonica and widely available at California nurseries with large citrus collections, or even online from Four Winds Growers.
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