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bananaT 03-19-2012 01:19 AM

Grow Apples in the south,or anywhere?
 
So, does anybody here grow apples?
I live here in fl but I grow quite a few kinds.
What are you experiences with them?
Anyone trade sicon wood?

Anna
Dorsett Golden
Ar Black
Liberty
Yellow Deliious
Gala
Honey Crisp
Granny smith
BraeBurn
Gold Rush
Fuji
Red vein
Pink pearl
Niedzwetzkyana

Worm_Farmer 03-19-2012 05:31 AM

Re: Grow Apples in the south,or anywhere?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bananaT (Post 189178)
So, does anybody here grow apples?
I live here in fl but I grow quite a few kinds.
What are you experiences with them?
Anyone trade sicon wood?

Anna
Dorsett Golden
Ar Black
Liberty
Yellow Deliious
Gala
Honey Crisp
Granny smith
BraeBurn
Gold Rush
Fuji
Red vein
Pink pearl
Niedzwetzkyana

I have Ein Shemer and it has not done much of anything so far. My dad has Anna and Dorsett Golden, His Anna has a few apples on it right now and the Dorsett Golden has 1 apple on it so far this year. I am in Central FL and can only grow plants with 400 Chill hours or less.

RAINFOREZT 03-19-2012 12:10 PM

Re: Grow Apples in the south,or anywhere?
 
Is it possible to grow them in Miami?

barnetmill 03-19-2012 01:01 PM

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So far I am having very good results with the Joy heirloom apple cultivar sold by just fruits and exotics. The tropic sweet and the Joy bloom about the same time, with the Joy being a tad earlier. They were blooming in January so might work in zone 9. The tropic sweet is not as resistant to disease.
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JOY'S APPLE Found a little north of Tallahassee, the tree is healthy (without any maintenance!) and appears to be self-fertile since there are no other apples in the area. The fruit is crispy and green blushed with yellow. It ripens in late June into July. We don't know its story, but we do know it's delicious. Great choice for an organic grower. Found in Zone 8B. Self-fertile. Estimated 500 chill hours.

bananaT 03-19-2012 03:32 PM

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Chill hours have little to no bearing on the apples I listed.
Anna and dorsett actually have 0 chill requirement.
This has been a warm winter, with just 102 chill hours in my yard. All of my trees are flowering very nicely for me still.....

The high chill hours stated for apples has been greatly overestimated.
Just take honey crisp, it was bred for the coldest winters up north.
It does very well here in the Florida heat, and produces fruit incomparable to the garbage in the store..

Red vein, Pink pearl, Niedzwetzkyana Are trees I have just recently acquired.
The first and last are from western Europe/Eurasia, but I have still got a few Flowers this year...

Ein Shemer Is a crappy apple, Its why I don't grow it anymore.
The fruit is horrible, grainy, not very tasty. It also needs a pollinator, but It flowers to late to get pollinated by the early apples, to early for the late apples, so fruit set is always off. Its very problematic.

GreenFin 03-19-2012 06:09 PM

Re: Grow Apples in the south,or anywhere?
 
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Originally Posted by bananaT (Post 189205)
Anna and dorsett actually have 0 chill requirement.

There are really apples with 0 chill requirement? Does that mean they'd fruit year-round in a suitably controlled greenhouse environment?

bananimal 03-19-2012 07:35 PM

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Some nurseries are offering low chill apples for growing in So Fla. Don't know the names. Don't care to grow them since I found out about Fuji at the grocery store. Nothing can beat the tast of a Fuji. And great shelf life.

Same for Ranier type cherries - best tasting cherry ever. Those trees I have.

barnetmill 03-19-2012 08:59 PM

Re: Grow Apples in the south,or anywhere?
 
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Originally Posted by bananimal (Post 189216)
Some nurseries are offering low chill apples for growing in So Fla. Don't know the names. Don't care to grow them since I found out about Fuji at the grocery store. Nothing can beat the tast of a Fuji. And great shelf life.

Same for Ranier type cherries - best tasting cherry ever. Those trees I have.

I will have to try the Fuji. I do have a pear (Olton Broussard) that looks like a green to green yellowish apple that also quite good and taste like my chinese pears. None of my Anas or Dorsets have yielded very much and I would like to graft over to something else. So far the Joy apple is my only success.

bananaT 03-19-2012 11:51 PM

Re: Grow Apples in the south,or anywhere?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenFin (Post 189209)
There are really apples with 0 chill requirement? Does that mean they'd fruit year-round in a suitably controlled greenhouse environment?

Yep, most of the Israeli cultivors are very low chill, to none....
Dorsett golden being the best apple for S.FL and would probably do well in a green house setting. If it had the room. It needs no chill hours at all, and produces OK sized apples with no pollination(better and nicer with pollination), AND will flower most of the summer into fall.
Mine has a second wave of blossoms now.

bananaT 03-20-2012 12:21 AM

Re: Grow Apples in the south,or anywhere?
 
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Originally Posted by barnetmill (Post 189225)
None of my Anas or Dorsets have yielded very much and I would like to graft over to something else. So far the Joy apple is my only success.

You need to make sure you get good pollination, as that's most likely your problem.

barnetmill 03-20-2012 07:33 AM

Re: Grow Apples in the south,or anywhere?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bananaT (Post 189235)
You need to make sure you get good pollination, as that's most likely your problem.

Could be true. The Joy apple is self fertile.

sunfish 03-20-2012 07:49 AM

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Just Fruits and Exotics

HoaNui 03-20-2012 03:16 PM

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I have some Supercolumn trees that take up hardly any space at all. and they fruit well.

(A) CHRISTMAS PEARMAIN, Selection: 1 Supercolumn
(B) SCRUMPTIOUS
(B) LIMELIGH


(B) FALSTAFF

(B) JAMES GRIEVE


HEREFORD RUSSET planted

GreenFin 03-20-2012 03:46 PM

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I'd never heard of Supercolumn trees before. Thanks for the tip.

HoaNui 03-20-2012 03:56 PM

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They're similar to the older Ballerinas or Maypoles. You only allow them to grow about two feet wide. Chris Bowers also exports to the USA. I have cherries, gages, plums and pears too as Supercolumns. Ctrl click on the names and it should take you to the site. If not, try the link below. I have 23 fruit trees as well as half a dozen blueberry bushes and two peaches in my tiny 10 x 10 yard garden lol - oh, and gooseberries, blackberries, kiwis, rhubarb, horseradish and raspberries too! I can hardly move in the summer LOL. forgot my Brown Turkey fig.

:woohoonaner:

Fruit Bushes, Trees, Plants, Nursery | Grow Your Own | Soft Fruit | Blurberry Bushes

HoaNui 03-20-2012 04:22 PM

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Here are a couple of pics to let you see what they are like. They line both sides of the path and are fairly hard to see sometimes lol.





HoaNui 03-24-2012 05:29 PM

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These are young trees so they are not as fully developed as they will be in a couple of years. I'll post more pics later in the season.

Darkman 03-24-2012 05:29 PM

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I am intrigued by these "supercolumn" trees.

Is this a pruning technique or????

HoaNui 03-24-2012 05:43 PM

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Basically, yes, they are rooted on to different stock to limit their growth. the beauty of them is that you can have tons of trees in a small area by planting them two feet or so apart. I'm all out of space or I would plant another dozen.

HoaNui 03-24-2012 06:57 PM

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This is the description on the site itself.

Supercolumns - Chris Bowers and Sons.


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