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sunfish 10-29-2011 01:13 PM
Funny shaped orange
 
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If I plant the seed will I get the same shape fruit ?:ha:

john_ny 10-29-2011 02:00 PM
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Looks almost like a Tangelo.

sunfish 10-29-2011 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by john_ny (Post 177042)
Looks almost like a Tangelo.
I believe it's just an oddball. It's the only one like this on the tree.

Yug 10-29-2011 04:36 PM
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You should see the citrus called "Buddah's Hand", it is bizarre. Can't eat it, but you can use the zest.

Richard 10-29-2011 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Yug (Post 177082)
You should see the citrus called "Buddah's Hand", it is bizarre. Can't eat it, but you can use the zest.
The fruit of Citron "Buddah's Hand" is almost entirely skin, there is only a pea-size capsule of flesh in the middle. It is the source of marmalade, unless you obtain the "cheaters" variety of orange-marmalade. The "fingers" are also candied and used as treats in many Middle-Eastern cultures -- all of whom claim to be the first user of the plant. Sorry guys, its native to China!

The standard Citron is a round fruit that looks similar to an Orange. Its skin is also used for preserves and zest. The cultivar "Seville" is available from some nurseries.

Citron, Mandarin, and Pomelo are the true Citrus species ancestors of Lemons, Oranges, and Grapefruit. They were first cultivated by the Chinese at least 7,000 years ago -- where at the time there were vast forests of Citrus. It is unclear whether there were any stable hybrids of these 3 prior to human intervention.

Limes, Kumquats, etc. are in the same family (Rutaceae) as Citrus, but were historically native to different regions of eastern Asia and the western Pacific islands.

trebor 10-29-2011 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 177036)
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If I plant the seed will I get the same shape fruit ?:ha:
Ha:ha: I don’t know if your kidding about the seed question .. But I can tell you if the seed germinates and grows it will takes about 6 years before you see fruit. And that’s if it fruits for you . If you really want to try to reproduce that same fruit. I would air layer the branch it grew on and then plant that to see what happens. Then in two years you could see fruit ! Fruit stunts the growth of a young citrus ..
I have air layered lots of Citrus . My family was in the citrus business in Central Florida as growers.. It will air layer just fine ! and its cheap to do!
Ya need Rootone and some Sphagnum moss, heavy duty foil wrap and some wire. Also there are lots of air layer pots on the market . Heck you can make your own pot :ha:
Boy now I go t the fever to go out and just start air layering stuff

sunfish 10-29-2011 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by trebor (Post 177095)
Ha:ha: I don’t know if your kidding about the seed question .. But I can tell you if the seed germinates and grows it will takes about 6 years before you see fruit. And that’s if it fruits for you . If you really want to try to reproduce that same fruit. I would air layer the branch it grew on and then plant that to see what happens. Then in two years you could see fruit ! Fruit stunts the growth of a young citrus ..
I have air layered lots of Citrus . My family was in the citrus business in Central Florida as growers.. It will air layer just fine ! and its cheap to do!
Ya need Rootone and some Sphagnum moss, heavy duty foil wrap and some wire. Also there are lots of air layer pots on the market . Heck you can make your own pot :ha:
Boy now I go t the fever to go out and just start air layering stuff
Yes I was kidding. Can't air layer it,not my plant, but I've rooted citrus cuttings.What do you think caused this and have you seen it before ?

Olafhenny 10-29-2011 09:04 PM
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I don't think, that this is as absurd as it may seem to some. Until early 20th Century the predominant
method to develop new varieties of plants, aside from cross pollination was by selective propagation of
mutants. If you planted say a dozen or so seeds, you might then get one or more which produce elongated
fruit.

The Russian biologists Mitchurin and Lysenko did a lot of this kind of work in propagating "acquired
characteristics", often making species more cold hardy by selection and propagating cold survivors.

Now, if you have a lot of time and patience you could do that too, but there may be a speedier method,
by trying to graft the twig the orange is hanging on on some other branch. Depending on the length of
the twig, you may have enough for two or three grafts as well as leaving a couple of buds for possible
future production of elongated oranges.

in a rush, so please excuse any "typos"

Olaf

sunfish 10-29-2011 09:14 PM
Re: Funny shaped orange
 
I'll take a cutting and see what happens

trebor 10-30-2011 06:24 AM
Re: Funny shaped orange
 
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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 177097)
Yes I was kidding. Can't air layer it,not my plant, but I've rooted citrus cuttings.What do you think caused this and have you seen it before ?
What caused it? Geeze I don’t know I wasn’t there :ha: But I do have an idea or two. It could be a bloom affect . Meaning when the bloom was pollinated it was shaken to hard or hit just right by a rain drop at just the right time causing one abnormal fruit to develop .
Or simply A mutation due to lack of some type of mineral needed to give the fruit what we see as a normal appearance . But when I was a kid I would be in grove with my DAD and we saw from time to time “ funny fruits ” . also it seemed like every one was always grafting to try to get the newest and best fruit. I know he would have jumped right out of the truck and air layered that branch in a split second . HE would have stood there and grinned for a few seconds …Then there were other growers who would pick and destroy that fruit in a heartbeat because it was malformed ..
Before I keep rambling on . I want to say I have seen plenty of “funny fruits” in our grove during the time I spent there.. Limes seem to have a bunch more than other trees
And I think everyone should try honey produced from orange blossoms . just once!

Olafhenny 10-30-2011 10:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 177097)
Yes I was kidding. Can't air layer it,not my plant, but I've rooted citrus cuttings.What do you think caused this and have you seen it before ?
I don't know a whole lot about it, but grafting on a mature tree would probably have been speedier than
rooting, because you would not have to wait for a whole new tree to develop. You would have seen the
results in the next fruiting season. :)



sunfish 10-30-2011 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Olafhenny (Post 177134)
I don't know a whole lot about it, but grafting on a mature tree would probably have been speedier than
rooting, because you would not have to wait for a whole new tree to develop. You would have seen the
results in the next fruiting season. :)


I rooted a citrus cutting that fruited at 6":woohoonaner:

sunfish 10-30-2011 11:40 AM
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Mexican Lime from cutting.Not looking real good should have been repotted a long time ago.



I will graft a scion also

trebor 10-30-2011 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 177140)
Mexican Lime from cutting.Not looking real good should have been repotted a long time ago.

I will graft a scion also
I know you already know this :ha: cuz you got a big brain.. But i would try just a little iron on that lime it will kick butt for ya!

sunfish 10-30-2011 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by trebor (Post 177148)
I know you already know this :ha: cuz you got a big brain.. But i would try just a little iron on that lime it will kick butt for ya!
Sure needs something

trebor 10-30-2011 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 177149)
Sure needs something
About half a tea spoon will get it back in shape quickly.

Olafhenny 10-30-2011 03:57 PM
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Trebor,

in what form would that 'iron' be? I.e. could you give us the name of an additive which would contain
that iron?

sunfish 10-30-2011 04:04 PM
Re: Funny shaped orange
 
I'll use a 16 penny nail

sunfish 10-30-2011 04:08 PM
Re: Funny shaped orange
 
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Originally Posted by Olafhenny (Post 177154)
Trebor,

in what form would that 'iron' be? I.e. could you give us the name of an additive which would contain
that iron?
iron fertilizer - Google Search

trebor 10-30-2011 04:32 PM
Re: Funny shaped orange
 
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Originally Posted by Olafhenny (Post 177154)
Trebor,

in what form would that 'iron' be? I.e. could you give us the name of an additive which would contain
that iron?
It can be either liquid or granular .. When I said” ˝ a tea spoon” I was referring to granular
Most any retail store that sells plant fertilizer will have it . Sometimes it will be mixed with Zinc . That too is also good to apply MODEREATLY …
If you pull off a leaf and hold it up to the sun you will see deficiencies’ in the penetration of the leafs color .. But ya need to read up of this type of assessment before you go pulling leafs and applying elements .. Old leafs verses new leafs Usually oder leaves will show you deficiencies wile the new ones will look good …
Then if your just working with Citrus or one plant group your going to be able to hit the mark on the deficiencies’ once your accustom to seeing a healthy plant.. OK then Let me add
A golf course guy will pour on the N to get grass green and it also grows from this application . He could also apply Iron and reach the same level of color depth in the plant leaf. But with out the added growth .. I guess they like mowing more than a home owner .. Same thing applies to citrus .. N will get it green and producing larger leafs. Iron will get it green in a hurry and because it is a fruit bearing plant will help with fruit production ( remember moderation).. Iron will stain sidewalks and golf cart wheels until it falls down into the ground. N will not stain..
OK my brain is now burning up from all the rehashing about this stuff .. But I hope I helped a little bit


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