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Next january I'll be back in Philippines (Cebu) for diving purposes:2730::islandsharkbanana:, and I'd like to take advantage of my 30Kg of baggage allowance to take back any uncommon cultivar of local banana.....

Last time I've been there , I was too much ignorant about 'nanas to tell the difference from one cultivar to another so I ate many good 'nanas' fruits without knowing what they were...


Does anyone know if there is anything special I can take back home hidden between a fin and a wetsuit ?
Obviously any european member who will like to have one, will be presented with a pup of philippine 'nana.... :2722:

:woohoonaner:

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Oh, you bet there are many special naners. :2750:


But there are so many varieties in Phillipines, that it's really difficult to tell which is going to be better than the other. Obviously, if you manage to find it, I would go for grey Saba. That's what we don't have here...:ukkibannana:


I also expect lots of pix upon your return. :2623:
Not only of bananas. :bananas_b

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Just to inspire you...

Here's Pisang Kepok Kapas (Grey Saba) from our Malay member Novi.
http://www.bananas.org/f260/grey-sab...pas-11227.html

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You would think a guy would be the logical choice to have it in his underwear!
:ha:

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I personally agree with this policy, large parts of Australia are indeed tropical, but that's not the case in temperate/subtropical Europe. Restrictions are in place, but as we know, Marguerite from Netherland got her package and was brought some naners without any problems... so it depends.

Fusarium wilt and sigatoka would decimate Australia's banana industry and make them rely on the Asian market (consequently decimating home production in agriculture, as seen for instance in EU...), so I understand why they are so prohibitive and why they want to keep their inner market secure.

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Yeah, a bottle. Most guys are alcoholics.

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Do you really have to hide the bananas? I thought it would be allowed to take a plant, as long as there is no soil on it...

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What could he lose by hiding it? :03:

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That just can't happen in Europe as the article also points out,and especially not with something like banana pups. Exporting a dug up from habitat threatened species of plant,yes,could bring you heavy treatment,especially if you know/understand what you did but with anything not threatened(and easilly IDed as such)or prohibited,you can basically walk with it in the airport here....I know a story where Greek people went to an exotic destination for vacations,bought a young Elais guineensis each and flew back here holding the potted plant during the whole airplane trip!!! And they got in Greece walking through the airport with those on hand!!! I also know how pissed the local phytopathological costume were to hear that but nothing was done of course. Questioning their employee at the airport he said:Well,I didn't see them!
How could you ever notice 40 people with potted palms on hand walking though the airport?
Anyway,the above story is completely true and I am all for this situation. If I lived in Australia though,I would adhere to the rules as I could also find the plants I want there so why order or bring them from abroad???

I would also love a pup of a special banana cultivar,something really Tall with unusual fruit or a stunning red on it,or a Tall Cavendish type would do great!
Grey Saba would be awesome but I don't think this would be likely to find around unfortunately. Pictures while you are still there could help the I'D experts here to guide you on which ones to go for for something uncommon!

Wish you have a great trip there and enjoy your dives a lot!!! I am a diver too btw and dived tropical waters for the first time earlier this year at the Sand Key,FL

All the best,
-Konstantinos

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Wow, looks great.... If I have know of it in February while I was in Indonesia I swould have take a pup for sure....

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LOL.... she has not been very clever to say the least... LOL
I'd put them in the luggage mixed with scuba gear and not in my underwear (but I coud always say to custom to be a close relative of Rocco Siffredi... :08: )

Anyway I have to clear that point before going there.... if it's possible to import soilless it would be great , otherwise I have to get a phitosanitary certificate in a way or another.....

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I hope so.....

As a last choice I could try to smuggle only the corms.....

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Luckily my resort has free WI-FI connection so I'll be able to upload pics every day for experts to ID the 'nanas.....
Last time I've been there even if I couldn't tell the difference between cultivars I was amazed of the sheer quantity of bananas .... they were everywhere in fields or mats, or isolated plants next to villeger's homes.....

My girlfriend gave every day some coins to local kids for them to clim a huge banana tree ad bring here some delicious fruit to eat for breakfast

I remember only one particular plant that had the flower very close to the ground and above it there were about 2 meters of bananas .... it was near a local restaurant and the owner just had to cut two or three 'nanas when a guest ordered a banana pancake.... now I suppose it was a 1000 fingers.


Anyway, I don't know the regulations to import plants here in EU and I'll take infos because I'd like to do the right way if possible, but i any case even if I'll decide to hide them in the baggage, I have good chances to pass through customs unharmed.... I often go to US and many friends ask me to bring them back photocameras , GPS or the likes wich i put in the luggage (without boxes of course) and, I've never been subjected to inspection by italian custom.... and when I come back from I diving trip , my luggage is so heavy and looks so near to explode ewith gears that custom's officials look at me with comprehention ...:ha:

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Just before you leave from there send few corms in package back home.
:woohoonaner:

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That is a good idea.... in the worst case , they will be blocked in In taly and sent back ....

I hope I can find a nursery there who can fill a certificate for some plants down in Manila....
As soon as I'll book the resort , I'll contact some people down there and ask if they can arrange that business with a local nursery.

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As I wrote before in a few threads here, you shouldn't worry too much to bring back plants to Italy. Custom checks are very rare at airports here in Greece, also in Germany and the same maybe in Italy, too if you're coming from outside of the EU. I received many plants from the US by mail without phyto certificate and never had any problems (so far).

It may be wise to send them by mail, but check in advance how long it'll take you. Do not ship them from a small post office in the middle of nowhere. Central post offices in big towns or airport post offices are good. Maybe you can check this in advance. It won't help you if the plants sneak through customs, but are dead anyway, because they travelled for a month or two. Courier may be expensive, but that's something you need to decide.

Don't declare them as plants! Write something else. Also declare them as a gift with a value not exceeding 45,- €, because this is the limit for duty and tax free import for private gifts by mail.

You could also try to split the pups you'll take home and send some by mail and have some in your luggage.

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Guys, you have siestas... it can't go any lazier than that. :ha: Nobody will bother with checking, unpacking and packing back again.

Maybe it's worth a try to contact Novi, if he is nearby... he has tons of TCed plantlets...

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I agree with Brend that bring small pups in your suitcase isnt gonna cause you any problems at all. Just avoid hiding those in the luggage you will take on the plane as these are the ones checked the most. The checked in luggage do the job just fine. Just try to split those in different places in the luggage and hidden from immediate view when opening the luggage for example. Packing them between clothes and other things help insulate them against possible cold they may face on the travel.
As for packing them in your scuba gear,i am not sure and dont know how much its checked by the customs but i would say the only safe places inside the scuba equipment is the regulator bag and the dry suit(packed inside it).The dry suit wouldnt be checked much and if the pups are small enough to not make any big bumps in the suit,they should go unnoticed. I suspect they dont scan the scuba gear,right? If they do,i think they would see the pups as a gelly thing and check it right away as liquids and gell are not allowed on the plane and they can trace those with casual scanning through the maching.

From what i know from an Italian friend on another forum,Italian customs are not as ours as far as parcels are concerned and he has had far too many parcels confiscated by the Italian customs although the senders did their best to avoid that. So i would say this would be rather risky. Better put them in checked in luggage.

If however you do get a Phytocertificate for them,you can legally get them on the plane with you although i dont know the exact procedure for declaring them and how they are handled afterwards.

Other good cultivars to get are Fehi if you happen to come across them there...

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That depends. If the sender was Ahmed bin Ulurbin or similar name, then yes, it will get checked. :ha:

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:ha:The senders were from USA and with quite normal names,i can assure you! The packages were supposedly properly labeled and of small size. Of course if it works for othersin Italy,its worth a try if he got plenty of pups!

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That's exactly my plan.....

Now I have to find some uncommon 'nanas cultivar worth the effort of bringing them to italy....

One is the grey saba suggested by Jack Daw....
Let's make a list....

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Indonesia is one of the biggest (and most beautiful) country in the world and Novi is living in west part of Indonesia while I'm going to the opposite side....in another country . I'm going to spend some hours in kuala Lumpur, but it's still in another Country and it would be the same as to ask him to ship anything to Italy...

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Fehi cultivar looks like too tropical to even survive in Europe, isn't it ?

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I've found something interesting on internet:
http://www.bioversityinternational.o...s/pdfs/713.pdf

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Now that is really interesting! It basically shows that if you radoml pick pups from every banana you see that is different from the others you already collected pups of,you will return with many cultivars that are generally unavailable and certainly unavailiable in Europe! You could maybe write down the local names of the cultivars that interest you and use some coins to have someone assist you in getting these there!
Personally I would be very interested in the semi-parthenocarpic M. balbisiana cultivar of Vietnam listed in the paper,in any Fehi and in AA culivars that look like normal Musa acuminata as well as in the Pisang Kepok Kappas,the Grey Saba Jack suggested! If you could share with me any of the above,it would be great!

I don't think there is much info in Fe'i hardiness but I bet they can survive in zone 9 even if they burn to the ground in bad years or even annually! Most edible bananas are derived from species too tropical,yet they survive in pretty cold areas! My climate in Pyrgos would certanly allow me to grow it successfully!

But maybe there aren't any restrictions between Malaysia and Phillipines, that's what I was getting at. ;)

It needs a hot and dry season and then milder, slightly wetter one, if I got it correctly. Something for Calabria, Cantabria or Sicily maybe.

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Looks like I'll have to rent an entire cargo plane to bring back every cultivar I'll find there....

Be prepared to send me some apples if you'll heard of me to be the first person to be jailed not for drugs' smugglling but for BANANAS' smuggling....:08:

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I see the point. I'll try to get some info about it.

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Go small on most you will find and you will be surprized how many you can fit! Send some back home as well in small packages(if you can fit them in small flat rate boxes/envelops,prefer that as i think they are not checked as much),use your friend luggage as well:ha: you know how it is...Only for cultivars you really like get a little bigger pup. Water suckers at 4-6" size have plenty of roots to survive fine. I dont have experience with sword pups of that size though...

I will:ha: Do what you are confortable with,use you logic and you will be fine!

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In that case, we banana lovers will start a thread to collect enough money to pay a lawyer that bails you out of the trouble...:ha:

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By the time we find out what happened, the trial will already be over. 65 years unconditionally in special, maximum security correctional facility for asocial individuals incapable of reintegration into society. Or was that Thailand that offered this sort of recreation for smuggling? :ha:

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I don't know the importation laws in your area but I think you should at least find a Mangat or someone who can send a clean one with papers. I would love to grow a try a mangat. They have orange flesh fruit, I think we should start growing more bananas with orange flesh fruit and get them distributed. You can see a picture of it here

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oh....what kind, humanitarian, and (most of all) disinterested friends I have on this forum!!! LOOOL :bananas_b

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Do you think they'll allow me to plant some 'nanas in the common prison yard ?

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We'll see what I'll be able to find.... if you look a a famous thai nursery who sell 'bananas o internet you'll see that there are really plenty of different cultivars , most of all I've never hearf of , and I suppose that in Philippines will be the same.... anyway, If I'll find a nursery in Manila surroundings , maybe I'll be able to get 'nanas called by name instead of paying the kids to bring me "any uncommon and different kind of 'nana you can find in a 10 Km radius....".... LOL:08:

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What yard? Who was talking about a yard there? It's not Europe. ;) Anyways, stay away from drugs, they are very cheap in the Phillipines and make sure that what you send are plants only. :08: That should keep you safe and full of new experience. :ha:

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No problems about that... I don't smoke even normal cigarettes....:ha:
I'm 'nanas addicted only!!!!!:woohoonaner:

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Am i wrong or the Veinte Cohol il a Philippines' cultivar ???

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Ok, finally I've bought the ticket !!!!:woohoonaner:

In September I'll spend 15 days in Malaysian Borneo on Mabul Island !!!!!!:goteam:

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:woohoonaner: Way to go Rick!!! :woohoonaner:

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Just got really good news!!!

Tomorrow my company is sending me to Brazil for 16 days for an inspection to our hydro plants in Mato Grosso and Tocantin (somewhere in the rainforest).
I'll spend 16 days between Rio De Janeiro and the jungle, so hopefully I'll be able to search for some local nanas to get back in Europe.... :woohoonaner:

Anyone does remember what's the local name for the Dwarf Brazilian ?


I know..... it's a hard work , but someone has to go there and spend some time in Copacabana for the better of the renewable energies worldwide !!!!:ha:

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I belive its Prata Ana but some of US members should know better.
Hey dont forget to collect many tropical seeds, Brazil has beautifull palm collection.
:nanadrink:

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Will do!!

Is there any particular seed to collect in Copa Cabana ??? :ha:

Bye bye!!!

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I'm still searching for the D.B. and the other plants some pals from the forum requested but , here is simpler to find girls rather than plants or bulbs....:ha:

not that I'm complaining at all, but I can't get back to Italy empty handed....

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Did I ever mention seeds???
Oh yap, seed,.....,seed,seed,.....:ha:
:nanadrink:

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Well,if you arent already married,you could bring one home as well :ha:


Have you tried asking the locals and street/farmer's market fruit sellers maybe? They should know and if they are looking for a little economic boost,they may even get the plants for you :ha: ;) There are also backyard growers in certain houses of Rio(not the most accessible place though unfortunately) which may be growing Dwarf Brazilian or the other plants for home use.

Good luck in your quest!!! I am sure you are enjoying it there :woohoonaner:

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So rick, how was it? Any good finds?

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Hi there, just got back.

No way to bring back anything..... at the airport there was close inspection about anything vegetable/animal related in and out of the country....
I had some seeds from beautiful palms but I had to discard them ... sob

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Bad luck.
Thats why I allways recommend postal services.
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