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Nicolas Naranja 07-26-2009 03:32 PM
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I don't think it really handles the cool and dry weather very well as it is not much of a problem in the dry/cool season. It definitely needs vegetative tissue to reproduce, but I'm not sure if it could overwinter as spores in leaf trash. My backyard seems to be an uncontrollable hotspot of black sigatoka mostly because my neighbor does nothing to control it in her banana patch and every storm that comes through blows spores on me. It is mainly a cavendish problem, and I think the reason I have it is because the bananas were planted by a previous owner from a nursery in Miami. We have cavendish bananas at the research station about 15 miles southeast of my house and they have never shown signs of sigatoka.


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Originally Posted by TommyMacLuckie (Post 86512)
Nicolas, there is Black Sigatoka is in FL. What is known about it in terms of, well, can it stand cool or cold temperatures? As in, if it was to make its way to SE Louisiana what do you - or anyone - think would or could happen? There are a lot of banana plants in SE Louisiana, most of them just as part of the landscape but I know some people who grow them for the fruit as well.

Found this, which is interesting:

APSnet Feature - Black Sigatoka of Banana - Disease Note

bepah 07-26-2009 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ewitte (Post 86530)
What I'm worried about in grass clippings is getting grass seeds.
Well composted grass clippings have sterilized the seeds...

TommyMacLuckie 07-29-2009 02:07 PM
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I don't mean to make this into a Black Sigatoka takeover and maybe there should be a thread just for that but real quick - in such a case of - and I'm guessing - just a few bananas, would it be easier/cheaper (??) to quarantine them under, say, a big tent of some sort and nuke them or to - I guess throwing them away wouldn't solve the problem.

To keep in line with the thread, however, the commercial banana farms or whatever in FLA - there just needs to be a thread about BS (ha ha) in the United States - what do they do or will they do?

Ohio'sBest 07-29-2009 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja (Post 86578)
I get about 300-400lbs of nitrogen from the soil, my phosphorus levels are off the charts, the only thing I need is potash and I need a lot of it. The green waste would would be good if I was on sand but I'm on mucky clay.
I believe gypsum will help with the clay soil.

Bananaman88 07-30-2009 06:31 AM
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Gypsum is supposed to help out with clay soils, but I think it takes a while to work.

Nicolas Naranja 07-30-2009 08:33 AM
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As far as my soil goes you would almsot have to feel it and see it for yourself to understand how good it is. The gypsum is used in clay to keep it from crusting and it provides some calcium. My soil is about 40% organic matter, 10 percent sand, and 50 percent clay. This combination of components makes a soil that drains really well, holds water really well, and provides most of the necessary nutrition.


As far as black sigatoka goes in Florida, most commercial growers are growing varieties that don't have big problems with sigatoka. At 70 plants I may actually have the largest Cavendish planting in the state, and I am very isolated and have not seen and sigatoka yet. At my house which is a much smaller planting, there is plenty of sigatoka and I control it through sanitation(detrashing), copper, and azoxystrobin. Nevertheless, the bulk of Florida's commercial industry is Manzano, Burro, Nam Wah, and I imagine there are some plantings of Hua Moa left. I think sigatoka is relatively easy to control on those varieties compared to cavendish.

Ohio'sBest 08-05-2009 09:43 AM
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Was traveling through some of the west coast, and stopped at a roadside fruit stand. Very ripe commercial bananas from Guatemala, with Del Monte stamp on them. 4 pounds for a dollar.

JPSInternational 08-15-2009 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicolas Naranja (Post 56567)
There are about 400 acres of commercial bananas in Dade County Florida and apparently those bananas never leave the county. I've been considering planting an acre or two and honestly have been trying to wrap my head around selling that many bananas! I never see anything other than chiquita, dole, or del monte in the grocery stores but there must be someone selling off those 400 acres that I just have not come across. Does anyone have any clue about the volume of bananas that moves through a typical grocery store in a week? I saw on that Ecuador site that a box of bananas was a little less than $5, but when I check the AMS for the port of Miami a box is $14. What is the real price point, the grocer sells them for $27 a box.
Normally, end users doesn't know the real cost of a banana. We are selling bananas, frozen Banana and other products by container.


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