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novisyatria 12-30-2009 06:11 AM

I think its amazing see alot of baby pineapple in one bottle. i have alot bottle pineapple and this is for sample. is it awesome right?
Banana Gallery - IMGP2575_Pineapple_1
Banana Gallery - IMGP2572_Pine_apple_2
Banana Gallery - IMGP2573_Pine_apple_3

kind regards from Jakarta:woohoonaner:

i forget to explain that pine apple developed from shoot crown. its the best for pineapple tc

Frankco 01-03-2010 07:41 PM

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Hi novisyatria,

I have a Pineapple crown going in a pot. Can I use that for an explant?
Would I use sections of the of the base of the crown, kind of like you would for a banana? I would really like to try this.

Thanks!
Frank

novisyatria 01-03-2010 07:57 PM

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Hi Frankco
yes you can use the crown as explant. its very good as explant source. take the shoot (part tip crown). for sterization using bleach 10 % ( 10 ml bleach + 90 ml sterile water) for 10 minute, rinse 5 x with sterile water, and then soak in alkohol 70 % for 3 minute. rise 5 5x with water. and explant ready to planted. try media MS + 2 mg BAP + 5 mg NAA for shoot multification.
good luck Frank. dont forget post your progress
regards

Frankco 01-03-2010 08:10 PM

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Thanks novisyatria! I'm going to try it this next weekend. I'll post picts of the before and after:-)

I am amazed at your caladium too. I have one of those growing too. I may just give that a try also.

Thanks so much for the suggestion of disinfecting and the media. I'm really excited to give it a try!
Frank

Frankco 01-03-2010 08:42 PM

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May I ask what gelling agent you use. It looks nice and clear.

Thank you,
Frank

novisyatria 01-03-2010 08:50 PM

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i use agar-agar that we usually use for puding. alot in supermarket and cheap heheh. 1 sachet containing netto 7 gr. its enough for 1 liter media.

kamayoi 01-20-2010 03:21 AM

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novisyatria will u post an image of pineapple(part tip crown) for the example :)
thanks :) im ur Ym buddy..

Frankco 01-21-2010 08:18 AM

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Hi novisyatria,

I didn't get around to trying the pineapple yet. I've been busy with other plants, mainly bananas.

I did a test with Gelcarin GP812 on bananas to see if it would help with the problem of phenolic extrudes. So far it seems to being working quite well. I was having problems with about 1 out of 3 cultures. Now, none are showing the problem.
Gelcarin is hard to get. It's actually cheaper than agar, $38 a kilo, if bought in bulk but, everyone jacks the price up to make it more expensive.

One nice thing about Gelcarin is that you don't have to heat it to make a gel. That saves some time. You do have to autoclave it to sterilize it though but no double heating. You can just add 7 grams in water; the stuff dissolves and turns crystal clear. Lovely stuff.

I do want to try pineapple, maybe this weekend. When I do, I'll post some picts of the explant I use. I'm not sure, since I have the crown growing in a pot of soil, whether contamination might have gotten inside of the plant. If so, I'll go out and buy another pineapple from the store and use that.

After I post the pict maybe I could get your opinion on how my explant looks.

Thanks,
Frank

novisyatria 01-21-2010 07:20 PM

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greeting Frank. i will wait your pos about pineapple. i dont know about gelcarin but if good you can use it. can you show me your media?

Jack Daw 01-21-2010 07:43 PM

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Novi, just a question. Seeing how much you work in TC area, what are your average monthly costs in $. For everything... media, pots, lab, initial investitions... I kinda wonder, how expensive it really is in your area. Thanks.

Frankco 01-21-2010 07:46 PM

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Hi novisyatria,

Here are a couple of picts of plants in Gelcarin. The first one is a banana of course. The second one is a Drosera Venus Flytrap. I put food coloring in the media so I can tell them appart.




novisyatria 01-21-2010 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Daw (Post 119163)
Novi, just a question. Seeing how much you work in TC area, what are your average monthly costs in $. For everything... media, pots, lab, initial investitions... I kinda wonder, how expensive it really is in your area. Thanks.

maybe the cost is 150 - 200 $ a month.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankco (Post 119164)
Hi novisyatria,

Here are a couple of picts of plants in Gelcarin. The first one is a banana of course. The second one is a Drosera Venus Flytrap. I put food coloring in the media so I can tell them appart.




you add food coloring/ oh no. food colors is poison for explant. your explant will die.

rgrds

Frankco 01-21-2010 10:55 PM

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Hi novisyatria,

No, food coloring isn't poisonous to the plants. I have about 350 Musa Basjoo explants in jars and another 100 jars filled with different plants that all have food coloring in them. They are doing fine.


very light blue coloring


novisyatria 01-21-2010 11:58 PM

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are you sure?
i ever try add food colors and the results not good. even there is explant can growth but they multification and proliferation limited. that why all scientist that work with tc never used food colors, except for souvenir for example.

novisyatria 03-15-2010 09:21 AM

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Pineapple shoots in media 2 BAP



Frankco 03-15-2010 09:53 AM

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Hi Novi! They look great!

Nothing is happening with my pineapple yet. I bought a pineapple this weekend and will give this one a try. I'm going to take a video of the process. I think I cut too small of pieces with the last pineapple. I did try to leave some hard base and soft upper section on the explants but maybe cut them too thin. Maybe I should make my cuttings a thicker and a little larger?

How long does it take for them to respond? Do you lay them on their sides on top of the media or poke them in?

Oh, I tried a caladium and a small shoot is just starting to show. :woohoonaner:

novisyatria 03-15-2010 10:20 AM

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Frank
yes i think you should more thicker. for bananas respod to hormone about 3-4 weeks. but after have callus they wll growth faster and can sulcultured soon. congrats for your caladium explant. in what kind media? i did it with 1 mg TDZ. did you used coloring foods for this caladium? maybe better without food colors. i will post my new caldium callus in other thread

Frankco 03-15-2010 10:28 AM

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Hi Novi,

I'm good with bananas. I have a bunch of them going.

The pineapple, not yet. I put some of the slices vertically in the media and some I just laid on top. The ones I laid on top seem to be doing better. The ones I put in vertically, the tops have turned dark. Is that normal?

Thanks Novi.

Oh, yes, I did use food coloring. I hope it doesn't hurt them :0493:
I'll try them without food coloring.

novisyatria 03-15-2010 10:37 AM

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i put them vertically and they all good. i think its efefct food colors. for tc pineapples through callus induction more sensitif than shoot induction directly like bananas. so try with no food color.
part top become dark i think maybe they got browning. maybe you cut too small and tehre some bleach unclean or sterilieze too hard or too long. but my pineapple explant have not turn dark like your.

regards

Frankco 03-15-2010 10:48 AM

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Thank you Novi! I will try bigger pieces, no food coloring and watch my disinfecting times.

kamayoi 04-03-2010 09:11 PM

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i`ll try this pineapple ..pak novi (wait till my homemade LAF completed)

novisyatria 04-03-2010 09:26 PM

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great big pineapples. amzing!!!

Frankco 04-03-2010 09:47 PM

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Wow Kamayoi that's a gigantic pineapple!

novisyatria 04-03-2010 09:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankco (Post 125210)
Wow Kamayoi that's a gigantic pineapple!

Frank, what about yout pineapples tc progress?

Frankco 04-05-2010 07:49 PM

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Hi Novi, My first attempt the explant turned brown and don’t look like they are going to do anything. I tried another one this weekend and they look better but I have wait and see.
When you cut the pineapple, and you see the dark circles where roots develop, do you trim that down further? I mean how far from the side do trim it? I’m afraid of trimming the side too much and removing the area where the roots form?

Oh, I didn't use food coloring on these:-)

Thanks Novi !!!

YAKUZA 04-27-2010 01:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by novisyatria (Post 119179)
maybe the cost is 150 - 200 $ a month.



you add food coloring/ oh no. food colors is poison for explant. your explant will die.

rgrds

wow, hey Big Spender.
what are the costs for a small amount of plants? for example
100 nanas?
Are products expensive?

novisyatria 04-28-2010 12:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YAKUZA (Post 126765)
wow, hey Big Spender.
what are the costs for a small amount of plants? for example
100 nanas?
Are products expensive?

do you mean cost for producing nanas/pineapples by tc? well more plantlet you get more cheap cost per plantlet. plantlet/seedling nanas its price about ` 1 US$/plant

YAKUZA 04-28-2010 11:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by novisyatria (Post 126816)
do you mean cost for producing nanas/pineapples by tc? well more plantlet you get more cheap cost per plantlet. plantlet/seedling nanas its price about ` 1 US$/plant


end the products?
more plantlet = more space hehe .
i have room for 1000 babyjars but not for 1000 containers with soil:goteam:


maybe en idea, workshop with video end pictures on bananas.org
From a 2 z
Not everybody can make a trip 2 the states or Indonesia or,....

novisyatria 04-28-2010 05:34 PM

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well, yes i make dvd /video about tc bananas and pineapples now. still in editing process

kamayoi 04-28-2010 11:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kamayoi (Post 125206)


i`ll try this pineapple ..pak novi (wait till my homemade LAF completed)

:( my HEPA ..

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamayoi (Post 125206)
-----Original Message-----
From: inochi technology
To: kamayoi@xxxx.com
Sent: Thu, Apr 29, 2010 10:01 am
Subject: Re: Re : xxxxxxx Q10.03.017

Hi Mr.Kamarul, your goods will come end of next week. Once it arrive, I will send to transporter for you.

So sorry for the late reply.

Thanks & best regards,

Chryss


mango_kush 04-29-2010 01:03 PM

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i wish someone would tissue culture some AeAes so i can get one without refinancing my mortgage

novisyatria 05-19-2010 04:12 AM

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some of my pineapple plantles become variegated/albino yellowish.. looks beautiful





regards

Dalmatiansoap 05-19-2010 05:22 AM

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looking great! how old are they?

novisyatria 05-19-2010 05:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalmatiansoap (Post 128360)
looking great! how old are they?

they are about 2 month in bottle

Greenie 05-23-2010 02:18 AM

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looking good!

pineapplefarmerwannabe 07-29-2010 08:58 PM

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If anyone has any pineapples and know species please contact me I am looking for different types especially ones you had for forever
Thanks Brian


P.S. Please help the new guy:nanadrink:


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