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thank you. that were great. so, banana beer, thumbs up or down?
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thank you for the tour
matoke grows great here... pups a lot as well |
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That amazing! Thanks for sharing with us!
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Ensete - I did come across 3 sites with Ensete, but I am pretty sure they all were planted on purpose. My understanding is at least one variety, maybe 2? are native to Uganda, but I didn't see any growing in what I would call 'the wild.'
The plants I did wee were all growing between 2000 and 2500 meters and it's my understanding that it's typical for the native varieties to grow at altitude where it's a bit cooler. The first one I came across was this beauty. I have no idea what it is and I can't seem to find any pics or description that might lend some idea of it's provenance. If anyone has any input, I would be very interested. This particular plant is obviously well groomed and still fairly small....about 1.5 M tall or so. I did see larger specimens of what I assumed were the same variety growing little higher in the same general area but were interplanted with other items, so hard to take any quality photos of: Beautiful, almost black p-stem: The second area I found Ensete growing was on an Island on Lake Bunyonyi at a slightly lower elevation. Here I found what I think are at least 2 varieties, maybe more. Some of them looked very similar to one another with only slight characteristic differences. None of them appeared to be groomed at all. This looks to me likely to be ventricosum. I was told all of the plants here were "wild banana" as opposed to the cultivars grown, primarily in Ethiopia, for the edible corms. The base of this plant is about chest height, growing on the edge of a steeper slope, so not quite as big as it looks. The p-stem and proximal midribs definitely have a lot of black on them as well. I don't know if that is normal for ventricosum or not. There were a lot of plants in flower, so I am sure there was ample opportunity for interbreeding/hybridization, which may explain some of the slight differences in characteristics I noticed. Here are a few pics of the various plants I felt compelled to take pictures of. There were probably at least 30-40 plants overall at this site. This one was cool. It had a dark red flower and p-stem, which I didn't necessarily notice on other specimens, and little evidence of the red color on the leaves or midribs which was interesting to me. These photos are of the various green and black forms. some of the specimens differed in the color of the midribs, with some being totally green and others showing signs of a reddish tint. I don't know what the differences are due to, whether environmental or genetic. Here is a green leafed, black p-stem specimen with a green flower: And the developing fruit from that flower: All green leaves, black p-stem: Green leaves, black and green p-stem, redish midribs, may be similar to the one I am standing under: I was able to collect some seed from 3 different plants. Unfortunately the plants were, to my eye, completely unidentifiable as they had all be dead for some time and had lost all color. So I don't really know what the adult plants from these seeds will look like, assuming of course they are viable. I believe the oldest seeds I collected were from plants that had fallen about 2 months ago. Here area few pics of one the the fresher plants I collected from: Seeds very visible within the disintegrating fruit: Plucked seeds in my hand: And finally, an older fall site with the only evidence being the seedlings popping up where they fell If anyone has any ideas as to the nature of these plants I would be very interested to hear them. |
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I'm so very jealous!! Great photos thanks for sharing them.
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Wow. What an exciting trip. Thanks for sharing. Loved the Ensete pics. The black trunked ones are stunning. The "Zebrina" plants you show are the ones I have posted about on Bananas.org before. They are the narrow leaf, tall, thin trunked, but fast growing, easily clump forming type, that I had years ago. I lost them after many years. Todays commercial market type have broader leaves and are much shorter in stature.
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Yes, you nailed it on the Zebrina being not all that tall. I should have elaborated that I meant in relation to the commercial Zebrina offered on todays market (at least on the east coast).
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So finally I am having a little success with the Ensete seeds I brought back:
about an hour after I took this pick another one popped up. Both in the C group from this fallen flower: So far for me 2 seeds (of 11) from this group have germinated. However, at least one other member has had better percentages with this group and at least one seed from one of the other 2 groups. Hopefully they grow well as I am very much looking forward to seeing what they all end up looking like. |
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Great photos and write up. Thanks for all the great info.
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As an aside: Maybe interesting, maybe not, but the seeds from the plant in my last post, what I am calling group C, with the best germination rates so far, were all floaters. They did sink within a few hours of soak initiation, but definitely took some time.
In contrast, the seeds from the other two plants, groups A and B, which I think maybe one out of 50-60 have germinated so far, all sank like stones immediately. Now maybe they had already absorbed a bunch of moisture while on the ground, but I guess floating doesn't always mean non-viable. |
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So I see a heat mat in the pic of your sprouting seed. Did you use it for those seed? What temps are you trying? Did you soak the seed 1st?
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I did soak the seeds for 24-36 hours with 1-2 water changes using warm water. I don’t have a thermostat for the mat and I have not measured the temperature, so I am not really sure how warm it is. It is the same heat mat I use to germinate veggies, among other things, and I haven’t had an issue so I don’t think I am cooking them. The heat is on for about 12 hours/day and the seeds are in clear containers with lids to hold moisture. This particular batch I sowed in pool filter sand. You are right about their fast growth. These guys are already 3-4 inches tall with the first leaf opening. |
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Well your doing something right to get them to germinate. I have the same heat mats with a T stat that is set to 85F. The best things about the mat is that they conduct their heat straight into the soil medium.
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Would love to see pics as those beauties grow :D
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Sirdoofus,
Did you get to experience illegal charcoal making? |
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