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TheVeggieProfessor 08-18-2022 12:34 PM

Tall namwa problems
 
Hi all. Something is up with my tall namwa. The new leaves are not growing properly. Any ideas?
https://imgur.com/a/y9HDaj5

mchris752 08-18-2022 12:39 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
Im no expert but look up bunchy top

Janelle525 08-18-2022 01:12 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
Overfertilization can cause really fast growth which results in deformed new leaves. If that's not it this website says calcium deficiency can cause deformed leaves: https://tropicalselfsufficiency.com/...ies-in-hawaii/

TheVeggieProfessor 08-18-2022 02:21 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Janelle525 (Post 350026)
Overfertilization can cause really fast growth which results in deformed new leaves. If that's not it this website says calcium deficiency can cause deformed leaves: https://tropicalselfsufficiency.com/...ies-in-hawaii/

To my eyes, what I have going on looks more like a calcium deficiency vs. bunchy top (at least, I hope!)

Backyard Banana Joe 08-18-2022 06:25 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
I had something like that happen to one of mine last summer. Here is the thread:

http://www.bananas.org/f310/worrisom...bsv-52341.html

beam2050 08-18-2022 06:49 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
dont worry about it, dont do anything to it let it grow.

TheVeggieProfessor 08-22-2022 04:39 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
Here are some up close photos of the leaf and what the new one looks like. I haven’t been fertilizing so hoping it’s a nutrient deficiency. Does it look like bunch too to anyone?
https://imgur.com/a/AHATfvK

beam2050 08-22-2022 04:57 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
looks like over fertilization. whats your neighbor doing on the other side of the fence?

i have one doing similar to that, the cow manure and compost i am getting has been generally just a bit hot.

TheVeggieProfessor 08-22-2022 05:38 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beam2050 (Post 350145)
looks like over fertilization. whats your neighbor doing on the other side of the fence?

i have one doing similar to that, the cow manure and compost i am getting has been generally just a bit hot.

That's a good question. They just have ornamental landscaping over there, so I doubt they are doing too much fertilization. But I don't know. I pile wood chips pretty high up the bananas and my food scraps and coffee grounds. I didn't think it would be so much as to cause a problem though, as I know bananas are heavy feeders.

TheVeggieProfessor 08-24-2022 09:50 AM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
Just wanted to give this a quick bump to see if there are any other opinions on the new close up photo. To me, there appears to be a j-hook pattern, but it isn't clear. The new leaf is coming out smaller and more damaged looking. Many of my other bananas are starting to produce leafs that are yellow and smaller than typical. If it appears to be BBTV, I'll have to remove a reasonable number of plants. I'm grateful for any further opinions on the look of the leaf. Does anyone see a morse code type pattern?

AaronTT 08-24-2022 03:47 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
There could be several reasons why your having problems. You might have a deficiency of some type. Can you tell us your setup; what type soil, fertilizers, frequency of watering?

TheVeggieProfessor 08-24-2022 04:18 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronTT (Post 350171)
There could be several reasons why your having problems. You might have a deficiency of some type. Can you tell us your setup; what type soil, fertilizers, frequency of watering?

Thanks for the response. I'm in south east florida (west Browrad county). Soil has a ton of limestone. I'd call my soil sandy, with a darker layer of top soil on top. I mulch my bananas very deep with arborist chips and bury food scraps and coffee grounds under the wood chips as they are available. Deficiencies could indeed be very likely. At first I was fertiilzing with sustane 8-2-4, but I didn't keep up with that. I've just been mulching and adding food scraps and coffee grounds and described. Everything was going along fine until recently when that odd leaf appeared. Now I am noticing the same thing beginning to happen on many of my bananas. New leaves are yellow and getting smaller and smaller. Pups are starting to look very odd.

EDIT: Since I thought these could be symptoms of deficiences, I just fertilized all of my bananas with sustain 8-2-4 2 days ago.

beam2050 08-24-2022 06:02 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
how much coffee grounds are you talking about

curious, think i read once that coffee grounds need to be composted before being used. but you cant always believe what you read.

TheVeggieProfessor 08-24-2022 07:19 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beam2050 (Post 350173)
how much coffee grounds are you talking about

curious, think i read once that coffee grounds need to be composted before being used. but you cant always believe what you read.

Interesting. I figured they'd appreciate the nitrogen. A pretty good amount. I usually drink 2 cups a day and I've been dumping the grounds on my 11 banana plants for the past few months. So they've gotten a fair amount.

Charles G. 08-24-2022 08:03 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
I do about the same with coffee grounds and vegi/fruit scraps, never had a problem yet.

beam2050 08-25-2022 12:23 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles G. (Post 350176)
I do about the same with coffee grounds and vegi/fruit scraps, never had a problem yet.

Depends on the banana. Some are more sensitive rhan others.

I have put coffee grounds around mine, but not to that extent.

AaronTT 08-25-2022 09:13 PM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
Florida is known for deficient soil, so I bet its a microdeficiency. Or the soil has become too acidic, which would render certain minerals unusable.

TheVeggieProfessor 08-26-2022 07:32 AM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronTT (Post 350186)
Florida is known for deficient soil, so I bet its a microdeficiency. Or the soil has become too acidic, which would render certain minerals unusable.

This is what I'm going with for now. Probably not too acidic; my soil is loaded with limestone. I'm assuming my soil is too alkaline if anything. However, I agree that a nutrient deficiency is likely. I just fertilized my bananas with sustain 8-2-4 the other day, but additional minerals could be useful. Any ideas? I was thinking of adding a calcium supplement.

cincinnana 08-26-2022 09:06 AM

Re: Tall namwa problems
 
Backyard Banana Joe fixed his by doing this.
Read the short thread for takeaways.



.http://www.bananas.org/f310/worrisom...tml#post342820


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