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ryboyer 05-21-2009 07:35 PM

Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
Has anyone out there seen or have pictures of siam ruby banana fruit. My local nursery has some real nice siam ruby plants. Their tags say they are ornimental. I perfer banana plants that produce edible fruit.

harveyc 05-21-2009 10:58 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
No, we've had a discussion about this before and we thought someone would have one flower last year but there's been no reports of this happening so far. If you want a pretty banana that produces good edible fruit, get an Ae Ae. At one time I said I'd never pay over $50 for a banana plant or "waste my time" growing an ornamental banana, but I've broken down several times now. To avoid breaking down on your own principles, you may want to avoid looking at bananas very often as they can be addicting.

frog7994 05-22-2009 08:00 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
I bought a Siam Ruby in a month it grew very well in the pot almost a foot . the next month I put it in the ground and it just looks like it died in a week it was gone. I felt the ground there still a comb nice and hard I hope it comes back.

ryboyer 05-22-2009 11:50 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
I hope it comes back too. It might send up two or three pups in its place.

Yvonne

ron_mcb 05-23-2009 12:12 AM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
im not trying to be funny or start anything but tyty stated on their website that the fruits were sweet . they are the only people ive seen who describe the fruit anywhere on the web.... yeah we all have a horror story,or heard them i know.

i met a lady at a local nursery where she said they produced "sugar nanas" once. she didnt know anything about siam ruby or even the name untill i told her.... yeah im aware that no one has pictures of one fruiting. im not saying any fruiting story is true :nanadrink:

just j 05-23-2009 09:30 AM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
i have been looking for pictures of the fruit or flower also no luck as for this ty ty place i checked them out online yesterday i would never buy anything from a company that puts junky cars and models next to plants i looked at one of the plants and they have what looks like a 94 nissan sentra with a body kit on it next to a banana plant absoluty rediculous, i think. and i wouldnt belive anything that they say either hey maybe that siam ruby they have pictured has fruit hanging from it but u will never know cause they have some guys face plastered over it lol

Neukman51 05-25-2009 02:22 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
I recently saw a very exquisite "ornamental" banana at the Atlanta Botanical Garden during a recent orchid show...



It caught my eye and interest enough to photgraph it along with the orchids and exhibit of blown glass scultptures. Unfortunately I didn't photogrph it's name plate as I often do with plants that I want to later research. But I offer the above as a possibility.

Neukman51 05-25-2009 02:58 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
Ooops... More searching revealed this photo of the "Siam Ruby" from Stokes Tropicals...



So it's anybody's guess what plant I saw below at the Atlanta Botaincal Gardens.

musaboru 05-25-2009 03:04 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neukman51 (Post 77409)
I recently saw a very exquisite "ornamental" banana at the Atlanta Botanical Garden during a recent orchid show...



It caught my eye and interest enough to photgraph it along with the orchids and exhibit of blown glass scultptures. Unfortunately I didn't photogrph it's name plate as I often do with plants that I want to later research. But I offer the above as a possibility.

Thats actually a Heliconia.

Does anyone know if ornamental and edible bananas can be hybridized to produce seedless offspring? Can you imagine pink skinned bananas with orange flesh and red-splotched leaves? I do and maybe one day, someone will create such a variety through hybridizing although it would take years or decades. These characteristics do exist in current bananas varieties, but not all in one plant.

As for the Siam Ruby, there is another site besides TyTy that mentions that the fruit was edible. If I come across it again, I'll link it here.

ryboyer 05-25-2009 08:46 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
I think this is call a parrot's beak?

exovetek 10-21-2009 07:33 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
Central Florida Farms also claims that Siam Ruby does produce sweet, edible, seedless fruit. If anyone can positively verify this, please update the bananas.org wiki for this banana. It says it produces seeded fruit.

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Eric 10-21-2009 08:04 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
At this point, I'd really have to see a photo of the Siam with the fruit attached. :lurk: Have been Very Curious since the start of the "Who has the biggest - tallest Siam Ruby out there?" thread. Just bumped that thread :).

stumpy4700 10-21-2009 11:30 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
First one to get fruit will be a hero!!!!! good luck all!!!! Mine are 2 years old so I'm hoping for next year...

ryboyer 10-22-2009 11:22 AM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by exovetek (Post 104581)
Central Florida Farms also claims that Siam Ruby does produce sweet, edible, seedless fruit. If anyone can positively verify this, please update the bananas.org wiki for this banana. It says it produces seeded fruit.

Central Florida Farms - Musa Acuminata Siam Ruby All Red Variegated Leaf Tapo Dessert Banana Plant for sale! - Rare Palms & Hard to Find Rain Forest Tropical Plants, Seedlings & Giant Upright Elephant Ear Plants, Aroids - Free Priority Mail Order Shi

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damaclese 10-22-2009 11:56 AM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
The story as i heard it was:
when the Siam Ruby was first discovered in Indonesia-2005 the natives that were selling that original plant claimed that it had a sweet fruit so thats were the idea that its sweet comes from. its closely related to Musa acuminata Tapo AA which is the side of the Musa family were the sweet part comes from. so as an educated guess all say it sweet. just as an side note to this discussion the main reason I believe no ones got it to fruit is that it needs high levels of constant heat above 95 to 110. this is the rang that iv noted that it grows the best in not the normal 84 to 94 degrease like most other Musa grow in. just from my observations its not all that in to humidity. but were it was discovered is vary humid but i believe it was transported there from the P.N.G. by human intervention. keep trying sooner or later one of us geniuses is going to get the Nobel prise for fruiting it! J/K but it will happen and when it dose its going to be front page news on the BQ news and I'm sure who ever dose it will have more then one horticultural reporter on there door step.

Simply Bananas 10-22-2009 02:06 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
I haven't looked at mine since the girls were there last month, so I thought that I'd take a look...


I'm going to eat one now!

austinl01 10-22-2009 02:13 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
Wow, those ripened right on the plant too! I wonder if the plant also naturally produced a Dole sticker on the bunch??? That would be some genetic engineering for sure! :ha:


Richard 10-22-2009 02:14 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
Where did you get the bananas to hang on that plant? :D
(or are they really siam ruby fruit?)

Simply Bananas 10-22-2009 05:08 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 104714)
Where did you get the bananas to hang on that plant? :D
(or are they really siam ruby fruit?)



That bunch came from a friend, the other bunches came from thrift stores. I have a lot of fun with them.

Gabe15 10-22-2009 07:36 PM

Re: Siam Ruby Banana Fruit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by damaclese (Post 104692)
when the Siam Ruby was first discovered in 2005 the natives that were selling that original plant claimed that it had a sweet fruit so thats were the idea that its sweet comes from. its closely related to Musa acuminata Tapo AA which is the side of the Musa family were the sweet part comes from. so as an educated guess all say it sweet. just as an side note to this discussion the main reason I believe no ones got it to fruit is that it needs high levels of constant heat above 95 to 110. this is the rang that iv noted that it grows the best in not the normal 84 to 94 degrease like most other Musa grow in. just from my observations its not all that in to humidity. but were it was discovered is vary humid but i believe it was transported there from the P.N.G. by human intervention. keep trying sooner or later one of us geniuses is going to get the Nobel prise for fruiting it! J/K but it will happen and when it dose its going to be front page news on the BQ news and I'm sure who ever dose it will have more then one horticultural reporter on there door step.

I was first shown the plant in 2004 and the story I was told was that it was collected in the wild in Indonesia, I know Indonesia is a very large place but thats all I was told. It wasn't until a few years later that stories of it being a sport of some edible cultivar called 'Tapo' from PNG started to circulate. There was also for a short time reports that it was from Palawan in the Philippines. There is diploid (AA) cultivar from PNG called 'Tapo', but there is really not much available information on it. Who knows what its true origins are.

I have speculated since 2004 that it would be a seeded, wild plant, and today I finally had the chance to call a friend who has been growing it for awhile to find out. I don't have any photos (yet), but based on the description it sounds like it is indeed a wild-type, seeded plant.


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