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momoese 01-14-2013 12:00 PM

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Looks good Dan!

Btw I'll be harvesting the Yacon this weekend. The plant is almost dead from the cold snap we've had in So Cal. Hoping for a nice sweet crop!

wolfyhound 01-14-2013 12:01 PM

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That's an awesome lot of bananas!

I think bananas are healthy and the best way for losing weight as a long term goal is to drop portion size and not overdo any 'junk' food like soda and candy and chips. But that's what works for me. I lost about 80+ lbs in a year and since I ate smaller meals, my stomach shrank so now I feel full with smaller meals and it's actually uncomfortable to eat huge meals.

To think, in my 20s I would eat entire extra large deep dish pan pizzas by myself and was STILL underweight. Sigh. Getting older sucks.

venturabananas 01-14-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bananimal (Post 213160)
Interesting but impractical. The best way for Americans to lose weight is to replace sugar and limit carbs. Protein and fresh vegetables is the way to go.

I'd question the actual health benefits of any diet that restricts fresh fruit. The vitamin, mineral, and anti-oxidants of fruits probably far outweigh any weight gain they might cause. The low-carb diet basically force the body into ketosis (which is what happens when you are starving) and it's not all the healthy a state to be in. Slimmer and healthy is the goal, not slimmer and unhealthy. Cut out the added sugars and refined carbohydrates, but for actual health (not weight -- don't confuse the two), eat those fruits!

wolfyhound 01-14-2013 12:50 PM

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The classic "no carb" diet is ONLY supposed to be no carbs to begin with to start your body into that state. It was never intended to be a state that the human body survives in which is why long term you end up with issues with it as a diet.

Fresh fruit is healthy. Natural sugars don't outweigh all the good benefits included in the food itself.

bananimal 01-14-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese (Post 213183)
Looks good Dan!

Btw I'll be harvesting the Yacon this weekend. The plant is almost dead from the cold snap we've had in So Cal. Hoping for a nice sweet crop!

That's great. Looking forward to Yacking it up.

Can they get planted after harvest or do they have to dry out/mature some?

Man is this thread all over the place. First dieting then yacking. :ha:

momoese 01-14-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bananimal (Post 213227)
That's great. Looking forward to Yacking it up.

Can they get planted after harvest or do they have to dry out/mature some?

Man is this thread all over the place. First dieting then yacking. :ha:

Last year I stuck the freshly dug (laid a an outdoor shaded table a day or so) growing points straight into potting soil in small 1/2 Gal containers and kept them on the dry side. As soon as I saw growth I laid on the water, then after some nice growth right into the ground.

I'll let ya how the harvest goes this weekend.

bananimal 01-14-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 213186)
I'd question the actual health benefits of any diet that restricts fresh fruit. The vitamin, mineral, and anti-oxidants of fruits probably far outweigh any weight gain they might cause. The low-carb diet basically force the body into ketosis (which is what happens when you are starving) and it's not all the healthy a state to be in. Slimmer and healthy is the goal, not slimmer and unhealthy. Cut out the added sugars and refined carbohydrates, but for actual health (not weight -- don't confuse the two), eat those fruits!

I was reluctant to get into detail therby hijacking my own thread. However, let me clarify. Both of us eat fruit on this diet. It's supervised by Quick Weight Loss Centers. There are offices all over the USA including San Diego, Tony.

All kinds of fruit are allowed --- except the banana! Except for the holidays, this is the regimen 7 days a week.

I personally eat fresh sour cherries or a banana at bkfst with cereal - no more gout. Dessert is one or 2 fresh Honeybell tangelos while they are available.

Lunch it's a cup of fresh blue berries and a yoghurt. I'm a b-berry addict.

Din-din it's broiled, grilled or roasted meat or fish with steamed fresh veggies.

No rice --- potato baked once a week (we split it), no bread or crackers.

I'm down 2 pant sizes and feeling gooder - a lot. Can we get back to Pisang Klotek now? Will post taste report when fruit ripen.

Dan the B'mal --- who is now down 2 pants sizes!!!

cheson74 01-14-2013 11:08 PM

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Beautiful bunch. Thanks for sharing.

Julian 01-15-2013 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bananimal (Post 213238)
Dan the B'mal --- who is now down 2 pants sizes!!!

More power to you. Best wishes :waving:

bananimal 01-22-2013 08:53 PM

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My official taste tester is helping to speed up PK ripening using body heat. This hand turned all yellow this AM. Will wait 2 more days to taste.


PR-Giants 01-22-2013 11:25 PM

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Nice Dog

ron_mcb 01-23-2013 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 212341)
That's because it is a Mysore. I think the jury is out on whether it really is a distinct cultivar within this subgroup, but from my very limited taste tests, I reckon PK isn't distinguishable by taste from what is sold in the hobby as Mysore.

So the pisang klotek has a different color than the common mysore? Undersides of the leaves come out Lighter? Was wondering what made people call it a variant??

I have a mysore from tony. I get all kinds of colors from the leaf undersides. I get light red.. Light red with dark red squares and bars .. Sometimes The undersides have no red color at all. This probably came about after the corm's growing point was destroyed? Im just saying with mysore Weird color variations are possible.

momoese 01-23-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ron_mcb (Post 213697)
So the pisang klotek has a different color than the common mysore? Undersides of the leaves come out Lighter? Was wondering what made people call it a variant??

I have a mysore from tony. I get all kinds of colors from the leaf undersides. I get light red.. Light red with dark red squares and bars .. Sometimes The undersides have no red color at all. This probably came about after the corm's growing point was destroyed? Im just saying with mysore Weird color variations are possible.

The gentleman I bought the original Pisang Klotek from imported it from Sri Lanka. He said it was called Pisang Klotek. Over the years it was ID'd by Gabe and others as Mysore. Are there any differences, who knows. I don't think anyone has grown and fruited PK next to Mysore yet.

ron_mcb 01-23-2013 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by momoese (Post 213711)
The gentleman I bought the original Pisang Klotek from imported it from Sri Lanka. He said it was called Pisang Klotek. Over the years it was ID'd by Gabe and others as Mysore. Are there any differences, who knows. I don't think anyone has grown and fruited PK next to Mysore yet.

Ok thanks. I was checking out the few pics of online and was wondering if it was just a mysore with less red pigmentation. The leaf undersides have red coloration and everthing huh? I was gonna try to get one and put it in the ground with my mysore and take pics as it grew. if theres one thing I can do its make comments based on observation. :) People who I asked didn't want to speak on parting with one easily. it had become kinda exclusive.

Terri 01-23-2013 11:55 AM

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Can a diabetic chime in, here? Bananas are FULL! of carbs!

That is why I cut my bananas in half: half now and half later. That keeps my blood sugar steady and helps to keep my weight down.

No food is bad: some are just richer than others!

momoese 01-23-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Terri (Post 213716)
Can a diabetic chime in, here? Bananas are FULL! of carbs!

That is why I cut my bananas in half: half now and half later. That keeps my blood sugar steady and helps to keep my weight down.

No food is bad: some are just richer than others!

You should consider growing Yacon!

momoese 01-23-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ron_mcb (Post 213714)
Ok thanks. I was checking out the few pics of online and was wondering if it was just a mysore with less red pigmentation. The leaf undersides have red coloration and everthing huh?

It gets the redish bronze color on the newly emerged leaf undersides. As the leaves mature the color fades or turns all green except the midrib which stays maroon.

As for availability it should be getting easier to find as time goes by. More and more people are sharing pups.

Terri 01-23-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese (Post 213717)
You should consider growing Yacon!

I *HAVE* considered raising the smaller bananas, but first things first. If I can get a basjoo to bloom, then I will try out the others. I live in zone 6.

I figure on bringing pups in from my Basjoo to experiment with, first. I have not yet gotten a banana to survive the winter inside!

I intend to get serious about it next winter. Meanwhile I am reading all of the threads for indoor and cold hardy bananas.

momoese 01-23-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Terri (Post 213720)
I *HAVE* considered raising the smaller bananas, but first things first. If I can get a basjoo to bloom, then I will try out the others. I live in zone 6.

I figure on bringing pups in from my Basjoo to experiment with, first. I have not yet gotten a banana to survive the winter inside!

I intend to get serious about it next winter. Meanwhile I am reading all of the threads for indoor and cold hardy bananas.

Yacon is not a banana, it's a sweet tuber that is safe for diabetics to consume. It's like a sweet Jicama. I grow it.

http://www.bananas.org/f8/yacon-14705.html

Terri 01-23-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by momoese (Post 213721)
Yacon is not a banana, it's a sweet tuber that is safe for diabetics to consume. It's like a sweet Jicama. I grow it.

http://www.bananas.org/f8/yacon-14705.html

OH!

I shall have to look it up!


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