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redswe 09-13-2013 09:01 AM

Maybe Nam Wah and Blue Java are the same ?
 
My D Nam Wah Mat produced these 2 bunches side by side . One is the same nice green color I expect and the other looks more like my Blue Java




caliboy1994 09-13-2013 03:10 PM

Re: Maybe Nam Wah and Blue Java are the same ?
 
They're not. But sometimes Namwah bunches produce a similar blue wax on the fruit. I'm sure if you tried both of them you'd notice a huge difference between the two. I have tried Namwah and not BJ, but I hear BJ doesn't even compare. Blue Java's growth habit is also different from that of Namwah; it's a taller, more slender plant, and Namwah is stout.

Julian 09-13-2013 10:48 PM

Re: Maybe Nam Wah and Blue Java are the same ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by caliboy1994 (Post 228891)
Blue Java's growth habit is also different from that of Namwah; it's a taller, more slender plant, and Namwah is stout.

I know that there are dwarf Namwahs but the Namwahs that I seen are a lot taller than the real Blue Java. My Blue Java fruited at about 10ʻ. I see Namwahs at 15ʻ

caliboy1994 09-14-2013 12:35 AM

Re: Maybe Nam Wah and Blue Java are the same ?
 
I was saying that Blue Java tends to have a thinner, more slender pseudostem than Namwah.

sunfish 09-14-2013 12:40 AM

Re: Maybe Nam Wah and Blue Java are the same ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by caliboy1994 (Post 228923)
I was saying that Blue Java tends to have a thinner, more slender pseudostem than Namwah.

Blue Java's growth habit is also different from that of Namwah; it's a taller

caliboy1994 09-14-2013 12:48 AM

Re: Maybe Nam Wah and Blue Java are the same ?
 
Speaking of Blue Java, I wonder how the one I planted up in Santa Clara is doing? I remember by mid July it had more than doubled in size since its planting in May. I'll make sure to get pics when I move back up there in a week. :)

sunfish 09-14-2013 12:50 AM

Re: Maybe Nam Wah and Blue Java are the same ?
 
Hows the taste on those

caliboy1994 09-14-2013 01:44 AM

Re: Maybe Nam Wah and Blue Java are the same ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 228928)
Hows the taste on those

I haven't tried them yet. Expecting a flower bud next summer.

venturabananas 09-15-2013 02:16 AM

Re: Maybe Nam Wah and Blue Java are the same ?
 
There are at least three varieties of "Namwah" (Pisang Awak subgroup) available in the mainland US, and they differ in height: Dwarf Namwah (6-9'), "Misi Luki" (10-12'), and "Ice Cream" (12-15'). At least those are the heights they get to in my yard. "Misi Luki" is not particularly stout, though more so than the real Blue Java, but the other two are thick.

robguz24 09-15-2013 03:15 AM

Re: Maybe Nam Wah and Blue Java are the same ?
 
I've noticed the same as Mark here in Hawaii. I've only had 1 harvested bunch on each of my Misi Luki and Ele Ele that was clearly a Tall Namwah. The Tall (TC from mainland) is the biggest plant (and bunch) I've had so far, and the Misi Luki (bought locally as a pup, don't know origin of the mother plant) fruited a couple feet shorter, not as beefy of a plant-fruit tasted the same. DN hasn't fruited yet, but is more stout, just a very thick p-stem for the height so far at maybe 5'. The plant I dug up the pup from was unique in how thick it was & even quite small in my yard was clearly different than the other 2 Namwahs.

None of my namwahs have been as blue as in the 2nd pic. But even today, the blue-green namwah hands I had for sale, people just assumed they were Ice Creams.


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