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LilRaverBoi 06-15-2013 11:10 PM

Re: I Think I'm Gonna Cry! :(
 
Just FYI, when it does bloom, you won't see a petal come out. You'll see the entire big ol' bud (well, technically inflorescence) come out, then it will unfold in time and petals (again, technically bracts) will expose bananas/flowers. If you search around the site, you'll find plenty of pics of it in various stages. Best of luck....glad things are recovering well for ya.

sunfish 06-15-2013 11:38 PM

Re: I Think I'm Gonna Cry! :(
 
:pics::ha:
Quote:

Originally Posted by LilRaverBoi (Post 221176)
Just FYI, when it does bloom, you won't see a petal come out. You'll see the entire big ol' bud (well, technically inflorescence) come out, then it will unfold in time and petals (again, technically bracts) will expose bananas/flowers. If you search around the site, you'll find plenty of pics of it in various stages. Best of luck....glad things are recovering well for ya.


Figaro 06-16-2013 07:58 PM

Re: I Think I'm Gonna Cry! :(
 
Thanks everyone. I'm fairly new to bananas, but not new to growing fruits & vegetables. Generally speaking, I can notice the changes in plants (usually!) when they are going into bloom.

I had heard about the flag leafs, but until this thread, hadn't heard about half leafs.

That being said, before she was even ripped from her roots, I had mentioned (possibly incorrectly!) that I believed she was close to flower because of the way she was throwing off pups and other changes I noticed in the growth.

I'm not expecting to see a petal come out before the flower, but whatever unrolled with that last leaf was definitely "petal-like" in terms of look and texture, etc. and I have never seen anything like that unroll with any previous leafs, or in any posts here in these forums.

That is just another signal to me that something is changing within this plant and I am guessing it's because she's about to flower.

I could be wrong and do appreciate all of the input here!

As I mentioned in my previous post, the new cigar leaf is significantly smaller than any previous, so it MAY be a half-leaf, but won't know for sure until it fully unrolls.

Here's today's pics:



You can see how much smaller the new leaf appears. All previous have basically sat "taller" on the plant, but this one may grow taller before it fully unrolls. Here's a closer look:



Thanks for all the help!

Figaro 06-25-2013 03:38 PM

Re: I Think I'm Gonna Cry! :(
 
I really thought that last cigar leaf was going to turn out to be a half leaf and now that it's unrolled completely, I can't tell if it's a half leaf or just a deformed leaf.

Here's the pic with the deformed/half leaf on the right inside:



Here's a closer pic:



I'd be convinced it was a half leaf if the current cigar leaf didn't look so normal! :)

alemily 06-25-2013 04:21 PM

Re: I Think I'm Gonna Cry! :(
 
Funny-sized leaves doesn't always mean a flag is next...especially when a regular-sized cigar is coming up.

Examples of strange-sized leaves my nanners throw out once in a blue moon.


Until you see a fat bud like this emerge out of the center...your plant is not blooming.


banana13 06-26-2013 09:42 AM

Re: I Think I'm Gonna Cry! :(
 
All these pictures of flag leaves are making me so jealous...

Figaro 09-07-2013 11:39 AM

Re: I Think I'm Gonna Cry! :(
 
OK...it's been another couple of months and if I'm not mistaken, she now has a half-leaf with a flag leaf coming right out behind it!

Here she is from "behind":



Here she is from the "front" where you can see the half & flag leafs:



A little closer look at the flag leaf:



Thanks again to everyone that convinced me to try to save this plant! I'm amazed how well she was able to recover!

GreenFin 09-07-2013 03:28 PM

Re: I Think I'm Gonna Cry! :(
 
Congrats!

Way to stick with it :)

Figaro 09-13-2013 09:37 PM

Re: I Think I'm Gonna Cry! :(
 
And, here comes the bud!




Figaro 09-16-2013 10:03 AM

Re: I Think I'm Gonna Cry! :(
 
The DC seems to be doing great! The first few bracts have opened and there's approximately 40 baby bananas currently visible.

The thing that appears odd to me is that the flower hasn't really fully emerged, yet and is still pointing straight up, instead of overgrowing the canopy and hanging down, so it seems like everything is upside down right now.

Is this normal? Do I just need to give it some more time to fully emerge?

Here's the pics from this morning:








venturabananas 09-16-2013 11:08 AM

Re: I Think I'm Gonna Cry! :(
 
That's called "choking" or "choke throat" in banana lingo. It happens when the plant is not completely happy, e.g., experiences stress at some point. There's nothing you can do about it at this point, and it probably won't affect the bananas it produces much.

Figaro 09-16-2013 11:15 AM

Re: I Think I'm Gonna Cry! :(
 
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Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 229125)
That's called "choking" or "choke throat" in banana lingo. It happens when the plant is not completely happy, e.g., experiences stress at some point. There's nothing you can do about it at this point, and it probably won't affect the bananas it produces much.

Thank you!

I do imagine that getting ripped from her roots the way she did would have caused quite a bit of stress, although, she does seem happy (albeit, the choking), lately.

Should I expect that the flower is not going to emerge any more than it already has, or will it continue to grow out with some time, even if not fully?

EDIT: I've been doing some research based on your diagnosis, which does sound accurate, and came across this PDF: http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/ass...e-response.pdf

It says:

Quote:

Choking. When the distance between the petioles
(leaf stalks) of alternate leaves is reduced, the plant
takes on a “choked” or “rosette” appearance. This is
commonly seen during late winter to early spring. In
August; bunches may fail to emerge properly. This is
common in Dwarf Cavendish but not so common in
Williams variety. Choked bunches are prone to
sunburn and produce fruit difficult to pack..
Choking can also be caused by high temperatures
(above 30°C) and drought.
It is a DC and, being summer in South Florida, we have been experiencing some high temps, also, pretty steadily above 86°F, which is 30°C if the converter I used was correct! :)

Figaro 09-20-2013 08:24 PM

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I haven't been able to get an exact count, but so far, something like 60 baby bananas and more bracts to open!



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