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Re: genetically modified bananas are here
Pauly, I'm not aware of any GM tomato on the market today. Flavr Saver was a GM tomato that was brought to market in the 80s but flopped. The problem with most tomatoes bought in the market is that they are picked green and then stored for many months. They were busy picking these green tomatoes earlier this month (the largest portion of these grown in the U.S. is in the county to the south of me).
The sterility issue you've brought up is unrelated to this discussion, but my understanding of the problem is that it's primarily related due to high estrogen levels in the drinking water supply of many parts of the country. It gets there from women taking birth control pills and once it's in our water, it cannot be easily removed. |
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That bit about infant mortality rates is a bit outrageous.....do you have documentation? Statements like that need to be backed up.
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Here is a list of infant mortality rate for many countries in the world for 2007.
As you can see, the Bangladesh rate is nearly 10 times the US rate. Please be careful of what 'facts' you state, people will stop believing anything you say. Infant Mortality and Life Expectancy for Selected Countries, 2007 — Infoplease.com |
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Picked ripe, many of the varieties available in markets are definitely inferior in taste as they have been bred mostly to withstanding shipping (shipability is okay, I guess) and also disease resistance. I don't know of any that are bred to resist insects, but maybe insects prefer tasty tomatoes over poor tasting ones??? lol I am trying to grow tomatoes in my greenhouse this year to avoid resorting to store bought tomatoes that are a waste of time and money. Last year I failed as I discovered I needed a much bigger pot - a 5 gallon pot quickly became rootbound and this year I'm using half of a 50 gallon barrel. When I did a tomato nutrient deficiency study in college (in the late 70s) me and my partner used hydroponics and the tomato was in about a 2 gallon bucket so I thought I could get by with a smaller pot, but I guess I would need to water and fertilize it several times a day to make it work. |
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and here's alink to more about GM products Permaculture Research Institute of Australia » The Failures of Genetically Modified Crops Continue and it looks as though there are no missouri and arkansas rice farmers on bananas.org - - the link above explains many are having a lot of trouble with contaminated rice (onya monsanto) - - the rice farmers biggest markets are in japan where GM anything is not wanted or accepted. |
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Leave it to Pauly, he's wishing things would rot in his refrigerator a bit faster! Just joking... ;)
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I'll be the first to put in my order for a zone 5 hardy Musa Ingens that glows in the dark!
Fantastic! |
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Pauly, you got my interest up. I've been looking through that big pdf document and see infant mortality rates dropped fairly evenly from about 20/1,000 in 1970 to 12.6/1,000 in 1980 and continued to decline to 6.79/1,000 in 2004 when that report was prepared (see page 94) . That all seems like what one would expect with the improvement in medical care over the years. But I don't see anything to compare these rates to Bangladesh, etc.
I do believe I've heard something to the effect that the USA has one of the highest infant mortality rates of industrialized countries, but I'm not too confident of my memory on that one. Peace, Harvey |
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Paradisi,
My wife does rice research, but she does conventional breeding. I don't think they do any GMO work. |
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