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buellracing01 03-28-2011 05:42 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 157959)
Hey buellracing01, why continue the charade? Given that my PayPal payment for the plants I ordered from Florida Hills Nursery went to someone with the email address buellracing01@... it seems pretty clear to me that you are the owner of Florida Hill Nursery. Why pretend that you are ordering plants from your own nursery? You did succeed in generating a few sales, and I am happy with the plants you sent, but why not just come clean and tell us about your business?

FYI, bananas in California don't grow as fast as in Florida. From what I can tell, buying a small TC will set you back about year for fruit production compared to a nice potted plant in a 5 gallon container.
HAHAHA YEAH RIGHT...

buellracing01 03-28-2011 05:46 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buellracing01 (Post 157963)
HAHAHA YEAH RIGHT...
DUDE IF YOU ARE BEING SET BACK A YEAR BY A DIFERENCE OF 2' BANANA TREE SERIOUSLY SOMTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR GROWING TEQNIQUE.

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sunfish 03-28-2011 05:54 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buellracing01 (Post 157964)
DUDE IF YOU ARE BEING SET BACK A YEAR BY A DIFERENCE OF 2' BANANA TREE SERIOUSLY SOMTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR GROWING TEQNIQUE.

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:pics:

buellracing01 03-28-2011 06:05 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 157960)
And he just bought some cannas from himself.
LET ME GUESS YOU MUST BE THE TONY VENTURABANANAS MENTIONS TO BUY FROM IN HIS POST. LMAO...LOL YOU GUYS ARE FREEKIN HALLARIOUS. THANKS FOR THE LAUGH. Sorry guys but Floridahillnursery.com beats em all.

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buellracing01 03-28-2011 06:05 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buellracing01 (Post 157966)
LET ME GUESS YOU MUST BE THE TONY VENTURABANANAS MENTIONS TO BUY FROM IN HIS POST. LMAO...LOL YOU GUYS ARE FREEKIN HALLARIOUS. THANKS FOR THE LAUGH. Sorry guys but Floridahillnursery.com beats em all.

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Tony is sunfish. rofl

sunfish 03-28-2011 06:06 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buellracing01 (Post 157966)
LET ME GUESS YOU MUST BE THE TONY VENTURABANANAS MENTIONS TO BUY FROM IN HIS POST. LMAO...LOL YOU GUYS ARE FREEKIN HALLARIOUS. THANKS FOR THE LAUGH. Sorry guys but Floridahillnursery.com beats em all.

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What's that got to do with anything. Dude

buellracing01 03-28-2011 06:08 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 157960)
And he just bought some cannas from himself.
Sunfish, I checked your profile you are Tony the guy ventura bananas mentions in his post. Sorry to mess up you'alls little ring you got going.

sunfish 03-28-2011 06:12 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buellracing01 (Post 157969)
Sunfish, I checked your profile you are Tony the guy ventura bananas mentions in his post. Sorry to mess up you'alls little ring you got going.
A ring of what ? Either you have pic's of your bananas or you don't dude.

buellracing01 03-28-2011 06:15 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buellracing01 (Post 157963)
HAHAHA YEAH RIGHT...

venturabananas, what?? just because you didnt like my response to your post its no reason to slander someone. Arent you the site admin for bananas.org and arent you promoting people in your most recent blog. If its B.S. lets just call it B.S.

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FYI, A meer coincidence.

buellracing01 03-28-2011 06:27 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunfish (Post 157970)
A ring of what ? Either you have pic's of your bananas or you don't dude.

Sunfish, im in Miami dude lets get real what do you want picts of I have mango trees, papayas, bananas, anonas, atemoyas and around 40 different types of banana trees dude thats 4-0, fourty. and got them all from Floridahillnursery.com

buellracing01 03-28-2011 06:42 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buellracing01 (Post 157972)
Sunfish, im in Miami dude lets get real what do you want picts of I have mango trees, papayas, bananas, anonas, atemoyas and around 40 different types of banana trees dude thats 4-0, fourty. and got them all from Floridahillnursery.com
They have the best deal on bananas hands down. I just bought some canna lily from them too and cant wait to se 'em grow.

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buellracing01 03-28-2011 06:52 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by venturabananas (Post 157959)
Hey buellracing01, why continue the charade? Given that my PayPal payment for the plants I ordered from Florida Hills Nursery went to someone with the email address buellracing01@... it seems pretty clear to me that you are the owner of Florida Hill Nursery. Why pretend that you are ordering plants from your own nursery? You did succeed in generating a few sales, and I am happy with the plants you sent, but why not just come clean and tell us about your business?

FYI, bananas in California don't grow as fast as in Florida. From what I can tell, buying a small TC will set you back about year for fruit production compared to a nice potted plant in a 5 gallon container.
Ventura, I just took a look at your banana picts and yikes!! your banana trees look rough.. seriously do you want some pointers.... I'd be happy to help. and yes if I were you I would stick with LARGE plants. They are harder to kill.

buellracing01 03-28-2011 07:11 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buellracing01 (Post 157975)
Ventura, I just took a look at your banana picts and yikes!! your banana trees look rough.. seriously do you want some pointers.... I'd be happy to help. and yes if I were you I would stick with LARGE plants. They are harder to kill.
It looks like you have a low water problem. If its dry where you are try daily timed light overhead irrigation and move them away from the trees I saw in the picts they will rob moisture as well as nutrients from the bananas. Pine bark mulch helps to keep the moisture in the soil too.... All joking aside shoot me an email and I will be happy to put you back on track.

SilkKnoll 03-28-2011 07:50 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
"Hey buellracing01, why continue the charade? Given that my PayPal payment for the plants I ordered from Florida Hills Nursery went to someone with the email address buellracing01@... it seems pretty clear to me that you are the owner of Florida Hill Nursery. Why pretend that you are ordering plants from your own nursery? You did succeed in generating a few sales, and I am happy with the plants you sent, but why not just come clean and tell us about your business?"

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(Sorry, I haven't figured out how to use the Quote feature yet.)


I was suspicious from the over-the-top praise in buellracing's first post -- literally suspected it was the seller himself, but, with no proof, I couldn't say anything other than what I had already said -- that I had online gardening and trading friends who had had very different experiences.

I can't help but wonder about Cherokee Greg also, since these two have been making similar posts and consistently thanking each other, while receiving thanks from no one else.

Now that he has decided to attack another seller, I can answer specifically from my own experience of buying plants from Donovan at Wellspring. His plants are grown out in those tall, skinny, rectangular pots with a nearly open bottom, which allows for a larger root system while saving the grower in surface space. The plants I bought were small, but had big root systems and thrived in transition. The ones that failed were Colocasia Nancy's Revenge, which I've always had trouble with.

Donovan shipped the plants in their pots, solidly filling the box with no room for shifting. If my order didn't fill the box, he added bonus plants (usually cannas) to fill the box completely. He put stakes in each pot that wedged the pot against the top of the box, so they wouldn't slip if the box was turned upside down.

I found the packing strategy pretty ingenious.

Donovan was honest and would tell me how long he had had the plants, which was helpful to me because, as I wrote, I choose not to buy TCs that have not been in a normal greenhouse (non-laboratory) environment for less than two months. That way, I don't have to deal with acclimatizing the test-tube babies to common garden conditions (and bacteria).

I still strongly prefer to buy from someone who is selling natural offsets, and, when they are regular gardeners -- not commercial growers -- they often sell them -- or even HAVE TO sell them -- at the same prices as the commercial growers, simply because of the competitive environment.

The only cannas I've received from TCs were the gifts from Wellspring. They grew out ok, but, of course took a long time to establish, while, when I buy a fat chunk of a growing canna rhizome from a regular gardener, it always explodes with growth.

I just saw an ad for a white canna yesterday. Yes, they were rare a couple of years ago, but ... things change. They aren't hard to find now.

Y'all make your own decisions, but, for me, the attempt at deception here speaks for itself.

buellracing01 03-28-2011 08:01 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkKnoll (Post 157979)
I was suspicious from the over-the-top praise in his first post -- literally suspected it was the seller himself, but, with no proof, I couldn't say anything other than what I had already said -- that I had online gardening and trading friends who had had very different experiences.

I can't help but wonder about Cherokee Greg also, since these two have been making similar posts and consistently thanking each other, while receiving thanks from no one else.

Now that he has decided to attack another seller, I can answer specifically from my own experience of buying plants from Donovan at Wellspring. His plants are grown out in those tall, skinny, rectangular pots with a nearly open bottom, which allows for a larger root system while saving the grower in surface space. The plants I bought were small, but had big root systems and thrived in transition. The ones that failed were Colocasia Nancy's Revenge, which I've always had trouble with.

Donovan shipped the plants in their pots, solidly filling the box with no room for shifting. If my order didn't fill the box, he added bonus plants (usually cannas) to fill the box completely. He put stakes in each pot that wedged the pot against the top of the box, so they wouldn't slip if the box was turned upside down.

I found the packing strategy pretty ingenious.

Donovan was honest and would tell me how long he had had the plants, which was helpful to me because, as I wrote, I choose not to buy TCs that have not been in a normal greenhouse (non-laboratory) environment for less than two months. That way, I don't have to deal with acclimatizing the test-tube babies to common garden conditions (and bacteria).

I still strongly prefer to buy from someone who is selling natural offsets, and, when they are regular gardeners -- not commercial growers -- they often sell them -- or even HAVE TO sell them -- at the same prices as the commercial growers, simply because of the competitive environment.

The only cannas I've received from TCs were the gifts from Wellspring. They grew out ok, but, of course took a long time to establish, while, when I buy a fat chunk of a growing canna rhizome from a regular gardener, it always explodes with growth.

I just saw an ad for a white canna yesterday. Yes, they were rare a couple of years ago, but ... things change. They aren't hard to find now.

Y'all make your own decisions, but, for me, the attempt at deception here speaks for itself.
Just a bunch of nursery owners trying to stur it up junk. Floridahillnursery rocks... Hands down. All these growers worring about Florida hill says it all.

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sunfish 03-28-2011 08:13 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buellracing01 (Post 157981)
Just a bunch of nursery owners trying to stur it up junk. Floridahillnursery rocks... Hands down. All these growers worring about Florida hill says it all.

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Which growers are they ?

SilkKnoll 03-28-2011 08:19 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
<-------- not a grower or a seller, ever.



In the interest of full disclosure, I am thinking about selling some oriental lily bulbs..... but no TCs, and I wouldn't be competing with banana growers.

cherokee_greg 03-28-2011 08:33 PM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkKnoll (Post 157979)
"Hey buellracing01, why continue the charade? Given that my PayPal payment for the plants I ordered from Florida Hills Nursery went to someone with the email address buellracing01@... it seems pretty clear to me that you are the owner of Florida Hill Nursery. Why pretend that you are ordering plants from your own nursery? You did succeed in generating a few sales, and I am happy with the plants you sent, but why not just come clean and tell us about your business?"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(Sorry, I haven't figured out how to use the Quote feature yet.)


I was suspicious from the over-the-top praise in buellracing's first post -- literally suspected it was the seller himself, but, with no proof, I couldn't say anything other than what I had already said -- that I had online gardening and trading friends who had had very different experiences.

I can't help but wonder about Cherokee Greg also, since these two have been making similar posts and consistently thanking each other, while receiving thanks from no one else.

Now that he has decided to attack another seller, I can answer specifically from my own experience of buying plants from Donovan at Wellspring. His plants are grown out in those tall, skinny, rectangular pots with a nearly open bottom, which allows for a larger root system while saving the grower in surface space. The plants I bought were small, but had big root systems and thrived in transition. The ones that failed were Colocasia Nancy's Revenge, which I've always had trouble with.

Donovan shipped the plants in their pots, solidly filling the box with no room for shifting. If my order didn't fill the box, he added bonus plants (usually cannas) to fill the box completely. He put stakes in each pot that wedged the pot against the top of the box, so they wouldn't slip if the box was turned upside down.

I found the packing strategy pretty ingenious.

Donovan was honest and would tell me how long he had had the plants, which was helpful to me because, as I wrote, I choose not to buy TCs that have not been in a normal greenhouse (non-laboratory) environment for less than two months. That way, I don't have to deal with acclimatizing the test-tube babies to common garden conditions (and bacteria).

I still strongly prefer to buy from someone who is selling natural offsets, and, when they are regular gardeners -- not commercial growers -- they often sell them -- or even HAVE TO sell them -- at the same prices as the commercial growers, simply because of the competitive environment.

The only cannas I've received from TCs were the gifts from Wellspring. They grew out ok, but, of course took a long time to establish, while, when I buy a fat chunk of a growing canna rhizome from a regular gardener, it always explodes with growth.

I just saw an ad for a white canna yesterday. Yes, they were rare a couple of years ago, but ... things change. They aren't hard to find now.

Y'all make your own decisions, but, for me, the attempt at deception here speaks for itself.
What about me ? Im just a gardner love plants. I been away for awile due to getting radiation and chemo. Feeling better now. I love to grow all kinds of plants.
any thing else you want to know ? Just ask

venturabananas 03-29-2011 12:12 AM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
Shawn (buellracing01), I'm not sure what you are so worked up about. The deception isn't working. It's clear you are the owner of Florida Hill Nursery. You should have just been honest about that up front. The folks on bananas.org (including me), are always looking for new sources of banana plants. You've got a great selection at good prices. As I said, I'd give your business the thumbs up (prior to finding out that you were posing as a customer). The plants you sent me were very nice for the price.

The folks I mentioned as sources for bigger plants either gave them to me or sold them to me for minimal profit, to support their expenses as hobbyists.

No, I am not an administrator on this site. Just a guy who is interested in growing bananas in a place that isn't perfect for them. There is no question that you know more about growing them than I do -- I'm just figuring this all out.

musaboru 03-29-2011 12:46 AM
Re: Florida Hill Nursery?
 
I ordered from Florida Hill last fall. I got a Glui Kai, Siam Ruby and FHIA 18 also. And the plants I received were not that different from Wellsprings that I've ordered in the past.

You get what you pay for. With both of these sellers, you are getting TC plants and IMO are not particularly vigorous no matter what. Especially when they are grown in puny containers. It's just as bad if they have been there for months are are extremely root bound or still have a weak root system. In my experience, they require extra care and attention or else they can die on you.

If banana sellers would bother repotting these TC plants into band pots or 1 gallon and sell them for like 5 dollars more, then this would be so much better for survival rate than those tiny 2 inch or so pots.

With that said, I would still buy these TC plants because they're so cheap and worth the risk for me. I've lost many but I didn't pay that much for them either. There are more expensive sources and for quality, you get what you pay for.

Also, I'm not saying these vendors are bad people. I'm glad they are there to give us more choices to buy. They ship fast and I get my stuff. Wellspring even replaced a banana which I strongly believe was the wrong plant for free. So...

One more thing: I figured out growing them in a drip system (hydroponics) will perk them up really good and produce good root growth. But I'm not sure how they'll respond when you transfer them back to growing in soil...


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