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Tytaylor77 05-20-2016 08:33 PM

First FHIA 1 Goldfinger (American) bloom
 
Spotted my first Goldfinger flower today. Excited about this one. It was a TC plant I received July 16. Planted in the ground on August 2nd. Bloom on May 20th. Not bad.




Botanical_Bryce 05-20-2016 08:43 PM

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Great timing.

crazy banana 05-21-2016 11:07 PM

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Congrats.
I second the good timing.

JP 05-22-2016 04:29 AM

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Contrats!

HMelendez 05-22-2016 06:15 AM

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Tytaylor77,


Congrats!

Jose263 05-22-2016 01:42 PM

Re: First FHIA 1 Goldfinger (American) bloom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytaylor77 (Post 290556)
Spotted my first Goldfinger flower today. Excited about this one. It was a TC plant I received July 16. Planted in the ground on August 2nd. Bloom on May 20th. Not bad.




I guess it is time to show my ignorance - I have Goldfinger from a pup acquired from a member a 3-4 of years ago - the mat has produced a couple of bunches but never early enough to beat the winter frosts. It is not as cold hardy as Orinoco, or Namwah. :bananas_b
Please help -What is the difference in
FIHA-1 Goldfinger and American Goldfinger??

Tytaylor77 05-22-2016 06:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose263 (Post 290803)
I guess it is time to show my ignorance - I have Goldfinger from a pup acquired from a member a 3-4 of years ago - the mat has produced a couple of bunches but never early enough to beat the winter frosts. It is not as cold hardy as Orinoco, or Namwah. :bananas_b
Please help -What is the difference in
FIHA-1 Goldfinger and American Goldfinger??

Some experts on here say the TC Goldfinger like mine from agristarts is not the true fhia-1 Goldfinger. They call the TC/agristarts one like mine the fake/American Goldfinger.

What all the differences is I'm not sure. I think the flower has some different traits. Maybe an expert will answer that.

Jose263 05-22-2016 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytaylor77 (Post 290818)
Some experts on here say the TC Goldfinger like mine from agristarts is not the true fhia-1 Goldfinger. They call the TC/agristarts one like mine the fake/American Goldfinger.


What all the differences is I'm not sure. I think the flower has some different traits. Maybe an expert will answer that.

TY - thanks - a familiar story except with different names - i.e. Blue Java and Namwah.
So, for the experts what are the tell tale signs for the real and/or fake Goldfinger? If my mat is true to form it will push a flower in late July or August. :drum::drum::drum:

PR-Giants 05-25-2016 10:15 AM

Re: First FHIA 1 Goldfinger (American) bloom
 
This was the likely source for the AS tissue cultures, and the photo below that is an actual FHIA-01 Goldfinger. Both plants are great so growing either one is great.

Look through the org gallery and see if you can find a real Goldfinger growing on the mainland. :ha:

USDA-TARS is distributing the actual FHIA-01 Goldfinger.





PR-Giants 05-25-2016 10:19 AM

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Congrats :woohoonaner:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytaylor77 (Post 290556)
Spotted my first Goldfinger flower today. Excited about this one. It was a TC plant I received July 16. Planted in the ground on August 2nd. Bloom on May 20th. Not bad.





Jose263 05-25-2016 03:28 PM

Re: First FHIA 1 Goldfinger (American) bloom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 292252)
This was the likely source for the AS tissue cultures, and the photo below that is an actual FHIA-01 Goldfinger. Both plants are great so growing either one is great.

Look through the org gallery and see if you can find a real Goldfinger growing on the mainland. :ha:

USDA-TARS is distributing the actual FHIA-01 Goldfinger.





PR - Thanks - Both pics appear to have blooms shoulder high or lower.. The blooms on my GF are higher 6-7 ft or more. .maybe I have a fake GF I will take photos if it blooms this season

Pancrazio 05-25-2016 06:41 PM

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Hey, wait, wait, wait.... i got a Goldfinger that i bought from Germany years ago which literally bites the dust every winter. I always tought that sources for bananas in europe was ultimately agristarts. So you are telling me now that that plant i have been talking around so badly may not be the "real" goldfinger?
I have to start over from scratch all my experiments with it?

Tytaylor77 05-25-2016 08:36 PM

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This one is right at 7'. Another one I have is 7' 6" or so and just popped it's flag leaf today. Planted same time as this one.


JP 05-25-2016 08:49 PM

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Congrats!

robguz24 05-25-2016 09:54 PM

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I have at least 4, possibly five "not Goldfingers" and they're all different. 2 of them come from the same local tissue culture supplier for most of the nurseries in Hawaii. Plants look similar but one takes a month longer to ripen than the other, flesh color is different, and taste is different. A 3rd from this same supplier is again different than those 2, and all are different (better) than the Agristarts one I got a few years ago. I have a more recent Agristarts one that so far looks quite different than the first one. The "Goldfinger" issue is a mess! Seems like TARS of someone who got one from TARS originally is your best bet.

Tytaylor77 05-30-2016 06:06 PM

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10 days later.


And a 2nd Goldfinger blooming a few feet away.

JCA433 06-01-2016 06:30 PM

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I see you have propped your Goldfinger bunch. That is crucial because Goldfinger is susceptible to collapse especially in windy locations. The Goldfinger bananas though are excellent quality.

PR-Giants 06-02-2016 09:50 AM

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Is this the banana you're calling a Goldfinger?

The Goldfinger is a very stout plant and none of the ones I've grown have ever needed to be propped even with their huge bunches.

Can you post a photo of the male bud.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCA433 (Post 259247)
My goldfinger bunch has collapsed! The fingers have not finished filling in yet.
I now understand this variety MUST be propped!












Quote:

Originally Posted by JCA433 (Post 293757)
I see you have propped your Goldfinger bunch. That is crucial because Goldfinger is susceptible to collapse especially in windy locations. The Goldfinger bananas though are excellent quality.


JCA433 06-02-2016 10:16 AM

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Unfortunately I do not have a photo of the bud.

robguz24 06-02-2016 11:45 AM

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JCA I've had a couple of my Agristarts "goldfingers" collapse like this, and the p-stems also look too skinny as yours do. Whatever Agristarts shipped me clearly isn't and it's just an ok tasting fruit with much of the taste and texture of a Brazilian, and a very weak plant overall. Fruit filling out has also been a problem.

Tytaylor77 06-02-2016 08:02 PM

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Mine seem to be weaker since they bloomed. It worries me so I propped them to be safe. They have plenty time to fill so I hope they fill ok. I'm going to grow the real Goldfinger beside it if I ever get one. I would like to see the differences also. They are doing great so far. The taller plants flower is a lot bigger than the first.

37.667910 06-03-2016 10:55 AM

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Interesting. (Congrats btw) I read Goldfinger are normally 12'-14' when they bloom.

Tytaylor77 06-03-2016 11:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 37.667910 (Post 293842)
Interesting. (Congrats btw) I read Goldfinger are normally 12'-14' when they bloom.

I'm sure they are in the tropics. Also some experts say these Agristarts TC goldfingers are different than the real Goldfinger from TARS. I'm happy to get 6-7' here. Easy to wrap during winter. My Manzano bloom is close to 14'. That is pretty tall for my manzanos. I find most of my plants are a few feet smaller than in the tropics.

37.667910 06-03-2016 11:46 AM

Re: First FHIA 1 Goldfinger (American) bloom
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tytaylor77 (Post 293844)
I'm sure they are in the tropics. Also some experts say these Agristarts TC goldfingers are different than the real Goldfinger from TARS. I'm happy to get 6-7' here. Easy to wrap during winter. My Manzano bloom is close to 14'. That is pretty tall for my manzanos. I find most of my plants are a few feet smaller than in the tropics.

Makes sense.
I know what you mean about wrapping in the winter. My dwarf Orinoco at 5.5' was a breeze for a frost blanket. Hoping it will bloom maybe next year :bananas_b

JCA433 06-08-2016 06:59 AM

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Taylor, my first generation Goldfinger stem bloomed at about 6 feet 9 inches tall. The bunch though was excellent quality with about 10 hands. The pup stems that followed grew to about 10 to 11 feet before the flower emerged. I may not even have the real Goldfinger though. Next time I will take a picture of the bud if I do not forget.


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