Factors that encourage pupping?
 

What are the factors that most affect pupping, especially in potted bananas? being root bound for too long, too much or too little nutrients, heat, or...?

I have a nanner I'd like to try to pup so I can wean off a baby to share, but I'm not sure what the optimal conditions are to make that happen.

Posting in the main forum instead of the container forum, because I assume the same factors affect pupping regardless of the container.

Thanks!

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The easiest way to make a banana pup is to feed it root stimulator in addition to whatever else your feeding your banana.. :^)

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Spring

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Partly it's variety-dependent. Some types just pup more frequently or at a younger age. Not sure how to 'force' pupping, but you're asking in the right place.

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Maybe it is just quintessence, but all my banana plants get at least one new pup the day after I fertilize ( almost to an annoying point because I do not want that many pups just yet to suck the energy away from the mother plant)

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Any over the counter root stimulators (like rootone?).

This is for that Datil, I want to make sure it pups soon so I can get it to you ;)

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I have only used Green Light.. I have used it extensively and I know a fellow who used it just to slow down growth on taller main plants getting within 2 foot of normal fruit heights, so they would flower in the spring or early summer w/ pups drawing the extra energy. I used it for overall plant health at first.. until I had more pups than I wanted.. lol :^)

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I don´t have huge knowledge.................or scientific knowledge..........but when I rebuilding my garden...................the roof of the barbecue structure felt down upon one of my Bananas....................the Dwarf that was with 50cm................

For miracle...............the roof did´t kill the tree................but chop all the leaves.................:(

The Pstem was intact...............

The pup sprout one week after the accident......................

I´m happy because I´m able to double my "Banana field"................removing the "Churrasqueira".........................but I almost loose my special Dwarf....................a gift from a very special people...............


Here in Brazil we are in the end of the winter....................so this Pup sprout is a bit out of the season..........................

And I credit this to the all leaves cut off............................

Another issue................is about the frost....................when burn the mother....................

After that................the mother dries.....................and many pups emerge.............

For me there is a link with the mother plant...........................if the mother is stressed for some reason.....................the pups emerge.................

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My three in-ground banana plants seem to send up a new sucker everyday. Between the three I would say a I get two-three new suckers a week. The ice cream is the worst followed by the goldfinger.

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If you want them to pup as soon as possible, grow out your young one to at least three feet of pstem if it's not a dwarf. Then grind your teeth together, cut it off at the ground level, and take a knife and dig out the center growing point so it's totally destroyed and can't grow back. Then you'll force it to make pups. That's what I do with my aeae, but it sure does make you nervous!

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What Sandy said or even more drastic, after cutting off at the ground, dig up the corm. Spray the remaining soil off from the roots and proceed to slice the corm.

I've done this a couple times with really good success.

More in-depth discussion at:
http://www.bananas.org/f2/corm-propa...ess-13011.html

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I am new to this forum, but I have had a bit of good advice from a commercial nana grower when I was getting a Red Dacca from him. He just cut down to the ground a tall plant, dug up the corm, then just cut it in half and cut off all the roots and dipped it in some sort of insecticide and gave half to me. The corm had a few eyes so he made sure each piece had an eye or growing point. It worked like a charm.:woohoonaner:

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Root damage seems to help, based on my limited experience:

I partially pulled my SDC out of the ground, snapping a number of roots in the process, and had 3 pups a week later.

When I cut off my first DC pup, the mother DC quickly put out 3 more pups around the damaged area.

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That is interesting. That may explain why I am getting so many shooters. I keep cutting them off when they first pop up and they come back in double.

LOL My plan to keep all suckers removed may suck.

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Yuri is right ---- stress causes the plant to procreate. Some varieties sucker more that others. Plant a Dwarf Namwah, and under adverse conditions you will have pups for everyone you know. :drum: And then some!:ha:

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the plant equivalent of panic sex :)

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Hummm?? Damn it Son I must be stressing the HECK out of my plants then I got more pups now from 12 plants then the local dog pound:}

Now PANIC SEX that's a whole....uh never mind:}

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I pulled out a Orinoco a few months back, just threw it on the ground in a horrible place for a banana to grow since I was intending on pitching it into the compost out by the bayou. I never got around to it (I have way too many Orinoco bananas, piles of 'em just ripped out and stood up in some Arundo, not planted, and they're all growing there because I don't know what to do with them just yet). I believe it has sent up three sword suckers from the base while the original plant died and they are growing just fine.

I've dug up bananas and just set them down and forgot about them and they seem to go right on ahead and start forming pups within a couple of weeks. I know stress can make 'em do that. But also happy ones.

I've had next to zero success with making pups with a containered banana. I found a Grand Naine (at Lowes) in a container that had a pup but they're always so small and they don't seem to grow. So container size is obviously a issue, as it is for anything - the smaller the root area the more bonsaied or dwarfed the plant/tree will be.

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seriously, whenever we have 2 or 3 days of rain I get pups. yesterday my California Gold sent up a pup.

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I get pups on a full moon :) and minus tides :)