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Nicolas Naranja 09-11-2018 08:12 PM

Deflowering bananas.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Gw8oVVrTA

Before


After


Deflowering is done to increase fruit size and quality.

Akula 09-11-2018 09:06 PM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
Thanks Nick!

Great to see a video of these techniques in practice. I didn't know about cleaning the little flowers off the individual bananas. Thought they just fell off.

Botanical_Bryce 09-11-2018 09:17 PM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akula (Post 318355)
Thanks Nick!

Great to see a video of these techniques in practice. I didn't know about cleaning the little flowers off the individual bananas. Thought they just fell off.

Some do and some don't.

Nicolas Naranja 09-11-2018 09:34 PM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
The literature suggest that the floral remnants act as a place for fungus to hang out. On Cavendish varieties and plantains deflowering can help control cigar-end rot. The flowers also serve as a hideout for thrips, which can be a big problem in the spring leaving little raised black dots all over the fruit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akula (Post 318355)
Thanks Nick!

Great to see a video of these techniques in practice. I didn't know about cleaning the little flowers off the individual bananas. Thought they just fell off.


sddarkman619 09-11-2018 11:39 PM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
why take off the last couple bunches on the bottom too?

HMelendez 09-12-2018 07:07 AM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
Nick,


Awesome video!.....Thanks for sharing it!.....





Larry,


As Nick mentioned, de-flowering and bunch pruning of last Nana hand/s it's done to increase fruit size and quality of the remaining Nana fruits.......Bunch pruning most of the time, speeds up the fill-in process!.... This practice has been used commercially long time ago!......




:2723::bananarow::2723:

Nicolas Naranja 09-12-2018 09:00 PM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sddarkman619 (Post 318362)
why take off the last couple bunches on the bottom too?

As Hector said, The bunch fills out a little quicker and the fruits are a little bigger. If it was just for me, I might not do it. But...fruit buyers want big fruit. For dwarf superplantain, I always prune to 5 hands. I try to keep Hua Moa to five hands as well. On Dwarf Puerto Rican Plantain I leave the 3 fingered hand as the final hand. My goal this season is to document a lot of what I do on the farm.

sddarkman619 09-12-2018 11:03 PM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
So pulling the little flowers off the ends really does something huh?

Nicolas Naranja 09-14-2018 08:11 PM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sddarkman619 (Post 318412)
So pulling the little flowers off the ends really does something huh?

Yes, at least in terms of thrips damage and decrease in cigar end rot. I actually left one one row over with all the flowers on it similar size, similar age. I will document the differences between the two.

Nicolas Naranja 09-19-2018 08:22 PM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
Deflowering a dwarf superplantain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iotkhgphzI

Akula 09-19-2018 09:37 PM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
Thanks Nick!

Can you expand a little bit or define what you mean by "leaves that will cause you any problems" that should be removed. Thanks!

Nicolas Naranja 09-20-2018 07:58 AM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
Leaves that are touching the fruits tend to cause scarring on the skin.

Akula 09-27-2018 11:20 PM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
I found this paper on bunch pruning that might be useful:

http://www.m.elewa.org/JABS/2010/33/11.pdf

How are the immature bananas pruned? Are they broken off or cut from the little pad/platform or are they cut off altogether with the pad like how a hand is separated from the bunch? Thanks!

Update: Just viewed Nick's video and see that he just breaks off the whole banana by hand.

Nicolas Naranja 09-29-2018 10:54 PM

Re: Deflowering bananas.
 
It's easier to break them off cleanly when they are young and newly emerged from the bracts. When they get a little older you are better off using a pruner or a knife.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akula (Post 318862)
I found this paper on bunch pruning that might be useful:

http://www.m.elewa.org/JABS/2010/33/11.pdf

How are the immature bananas pruned? Are they broken off or cut from the little pad/platform or are they cut off altogether with the pad like how a hand is separated from the bunch? Thanks!

Update: Just viewed Nick's video and see that he just breaks off the whole banana by hand.



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