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harveyc 01-01-2012 03:26 PM
Book: The World of Bananas in Hawaii: Then and Now
 
University of Hawaii Press - The World of Bananas in Hawaii: Then and Now

Would love to see it but don't think I'll be buying it at $80

robguz24 01-07-2012 01:26 PM
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Just ordered it and looking forward to it. Since I live in Hawaii it's probably more relevant to me than most.

pitangadiego 01-07-2012 07:20 PM
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That's funny. It was out of stock when I ordered yesterday.

robguz24 01-10-2012 03:27 PM
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Apparently the first printing was defective and they're waiting for confirmation the 2nd printing is ok before they actually ship any out.

Scot Nelson 01-12-2012 02:08 PM
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I have a copy and the book is wonderful, well worth the price.

pitangadiego 01-13-2012 12:00 AM
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Got my official backorder notice today.

robguz24 01-25-2012 05:51 PM
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Just got the book. Wow! It is really amazing, beautiful, and comprehensive. I want to take a week off to absorb it. Well worth the price, especially for those of us growing bananas in Hawaii.

paulorph 01-25-2012 06:47 PM
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1900 color illistrations is not cheap. Might buy it to remind me of the time I spent on the Big Island with Longs/CVS

DoctorSteve 01-25-2012 09:07 PM
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Is this for a limited time? I want to get it I just don't have time to read it right now.

pitangadiego 01-26-2012 01:23 AM
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Mine just arrived today. It is huge.

gaberoo 01-26-2012 06:15 PM
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Saw it yesterday night...beautiful book. I also don't know whether I'll be buying it if it is $80.

Our fruit society has a copy available (the one I saw) so I will probably pore over that copy there.

mushtaq86 03-16-2012 04:35 PM
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Just got my book:goteam:its one hell of a book,wasn't cheap either shipping to the UK.Interesting to find that silver bluggoe is a different variety from ice cream.

robguz24 03-16-2012 05:36 PM
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Yeah, I have learned so much from this book. I just finished it a few days ago and am more than a little sad. I'm fortunate to be here in Hawaii where I can actually try the fruit from some of these varieties at local markets. Bought some Saba #2 in the past week which I cooked up, and have some Tongan Hopa bananas on the counter waiting to be eaten for dinner tonight. The book has turned out to be more Hawaiian-specific than I initially thought. I think someone not from here won't really have a clue where many of the places in Hawaii they talk about are, and they will probably never encounter most of the Hawaiian varieties described in the book. The chart of names was really helpful, as the names of certain varieties here are not the standard international names, and now I know what else they are called. I also learned I am growing a few varieties I should get rid of, like Manzano. Glad to hear you are also enjoying it!

mushtaq86 03-16-2012 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by robguz24 (Post 189027)
Yeah, I have learned so much from this book. I just finished it a few days ago and am more than a little sad. I'm fortunate to be here in Hawaii where I can actually try the fruit from some of these varieties at local markets. Bought some Saba #2 in the past week which I cooked up, and have some Tongan Hopa bananas on the counter waiting to be eaten for dinner tonight. The book has turned out to be more Hawaiian-specific than I initially thought. I think someone not from here won't really have a clue where many of the places in Hawaii they talk about are, and they will probably never encounter most of the Hawaiian varieties described in the book. The chart of names was really helpful, as the names of certain varieties here are not the standard international names, and now I know what else they are called. I also learned I am growing a few varieties I should get rid of, like Manzano. Glad to hear you are also enjoying it!
Hi Rob

I'm surprised musa kru isn't mentioned in the book,or i have missed the page.

Gabe15 03-16-2012 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mushtaq86 (Post 189031)
Hi Rob

I'm surprised musa kru isn't mentioned in the book,or i have missed the page.
It is really focused on bananas in Hawaii, so many varieties in the hobby market are not in it because they are not in Hawaii (or very rare).

mushtaq86 03-17-2012 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabe15 (Post 189035)
It is really focused on bananas in Hawaii, so many varieties in the hobby market are not in it because they are not in Hawaii (or very rare).
Hi Gabe

Could you clarify ice cream and silver bluggoe for me please, it says in the book the fruit looks the same but ice cream fruit is 11-18 cm shorter and fatter while silver bluggoe fruit is 18-2o cm and is slightly elongated.

Pulp color ice cream ivory,silver bluggoe cream


Taste, ice cream is less strachy and more sweet.

Nicolas Naranja 03-17-2012 08:42 PM
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Is there much in there are about Hua Moa.

robguz24 03-17-2012 10:29 PM
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Several pages on Hua Moa, and many more on the Popoulu family they are part of.

Gabe15 03-18-2012 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mushtaq86 (Post 189057)
Hi Gabe

Could you clarify ice cream and silver bluggoe for me please, it says in the book the fruit looks the same but ice cream fruit is 11-18 cm shorter and fatter while silver bluggoe fruit is 18-2o cm and is slightly elongated.

Pulp color ice cream ivory,silver bluggoe cream


Taste, ice cream is less strachy and more sweet.
I haven't yet looked to closely at her comments in the book about 'Ice Cream' and 'Silver Bluggoe', but in personal conversations with Angela (who is a friend), she believes 'Ice Cream' is a Bluggoe and likely a sport of 'Silver Bluggoe', if that. I see her reasoning, but I am not totally convinced. The whole issue of what constitutes a subgroup, and how all bananas relate to one another is still in the works anyways, and there is a lot left to be written about it.

Want Them All 03-21-2012 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by robguz24 (Post 189027)
Yeah, I have learned so much from this book. I just finished it a few days ago and am more than a little sad. I'm fortunate to be here in Hawaii where I can actually try the fruit from some of these varieties at local markets. Bought some Saba #2 in the past week which I cooked up, and have some Tongan Hopa bananas on the counter waiting to be eaten for dinner tonight. The book has turned out to be more Hawaiian-specific than I initially thought. I think someone not from here won't really have a clue where many of the places in Hawaii they talk about are, and they will probably never encounter most of the Hawaiian varieties described in the book. The chart of names was really helpful, as the names of certain varieties here are not the standard international names, and now I know what else they are called. I also learned I am growing a few varieties I should get rid of, like Manzano. Glad to hear you are also enjoying it!
What does the book say that's bad about Manzano? I bought some from the market, and they tasted good to me. I even have one planted in the yard.
Thanks,

robguz24 03-21-2012 01:26 PM
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It's specific to Hawaii but they are chalky and astringent unless super ripe. Over the years occasionally I've bought really awful apple bananas and they must have been these rather than dwarf Brazilian aka Hawaiian Apple. They are also more disease prone. I'll wait til mine fruit and then decide. Outside of Hawaii I don't know that their recommendation applies.

Want Them All 03-21-2012 02:53 PM
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I know exactly what you're talking about, some were astringent and chalky, because they were not ripe, even though they looked like they were. I waited for another week, and the rest of the bunch was great. When I went to HI last year, I had many bananas that were sold as "Apple" banana, what is the cultivar of those?

Gabe15 03-21-2012 08:08 PM
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Apple bananas in Hawaii are either 'Brazilian' or 'Dwarf Brazilian'. Lately I have seen 'Namwah' being sold as Apple banana too, of course in error or in deceitful marketing. Rarely, 'Manzano' are sold (known as Apple bananas commonly elsewhere), but they are normally referred to as Ladyfingers. In Hawaii though, most non-banana experts think any banana which is smaller than or different from a Cavendish is an "Apple banana".

cheson74 03-24-2012 12:34 PM
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I've lived in Hawaii totaling 6 years now. For the life of me, I still don't know why they are called Apple Bananas. They obviously don't look like Applies and they don't taste like Apples. Any clue why they are called Apple Bananas instead of Brazilians?

robguz24 03-24-2012 12:58 PM
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I think they're called Apple bananas because they have a slight apple-like taste to them, or at least most people describe them that way. That was certainly my impression too the first time I had one, although I don't really think of them as apple tasting anymore.

venturabananas 03-25-2012 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by robguz24 (Post 189427)
I think they're called Apple bananas because they have a slight apple-like taste to them, or at least most people describe them that way. That was certainly my impression too the first time I had one, although I don't really think of them as apple tasting anymore.
I'm sure you are right, but man, I don't get any apple from the Brazilians. Pineapple maybe, but not apple. On the other hand, Manzano and Namwah, I definitely get an apple flavor, or probably odor, more accurately.

Julian 12-16-2012 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by robguz24 (Post 189027)
and have some Tongan Hopa bananas on the counter waiting to be eaten for dinner tonight.

My Tongan neighbor just planted some Hopa. How close was it in taste with Huamoa?

robguz24 12-16-2012 06:48 PM
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I can't remember exactly and haven't tasted them side by side. But I think they're pretty much the same and from the same major Popoulu family. But given a choice, I know I'd rather grow a Hawaiian variety.

venturabananas 12-16-2012 08:37 PM
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I noticed that I never commented on this book after I bought it and read it. That was a serious oversight because the book is awesome!

If you've spent more than the price of the book on banana plants, then you should buy the book. It is a bargain at $80. The amount of information in it is incredible, as are the wonderful photos. It is Hawaii-centric (as advertised), but about half the book is not specifically about Hawaiian varieties. It has tips on how to grown bananas, manage disease, cook bananas, etc. And if you want to learn how to tell different varieties apart, it is a great reference.

Julian 12-17-2012 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by robguz24 (Post 211468)
I can't remember exactly and haven't tasted them side by side. But I think they're pretty much the same and from the same major Popoulu family. But given a choice, I know I'd rather grow a Hawaiian variety.
Yups. Send me some.:08:

robguz24 12-17-2012 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 211485)
Yups. Send me some.:08:
Well I've yet to get fruit off mine. I don't know about Oahu, but you kind find them occasionally here in health food stores and farmers markets.

robguz24 01-20-2014 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PR-Giants (Post 238186)
I've read in a few papers where Angela lists the Green Red as an "AA" and was curious if

it is also listed as an "AA" in "The World of Bananas in Hawaii".
No, it's AAA in the book.

ez 01-20-2014 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by harveyc (Post 184333)
University of Hawaii Press - The World of Bananas in Hawaii: Then and Now

Would love to see it but don't think I'll be buying it at $80

Here's a preview of the book The World of Bananas in Hawaii: Then and Now :waving:

Abnshrek 01-20-2014 02:21 PM
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I like the Recipe section.. :^)

Yug 01-22-2014 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cheson74 (Post 189426)
I've lived in Hawaii totaling 6 years now. For the life of me, I still don't know why they are called Apple Bananas. They obviously don't look like Applies and they don't taste like Apples. Any clue why they are called Apple Bananas instead of Brazilians?
Dude! They are called 'Apple' bananas because in size/shape they resemble the Manzano bananas. Do you know the derivation of Manzano? Hint: the Spanish word for Apple is mansanas. The Manzano somehow acquired the name meaning Apple. Maybe for flavor? With all the Filipino folk in Hawaii to do the hard work, they would know the link between the Spanish word for apple and Manzano. They probably called the Manzano an Apple for a long time, and then saw a similar appearing banana fruit and just gave it the name they associated with another similar type of banana fruit.

To me it appears obvioius, but then I have some familiarity with the language. If anyone has a better explanation, I'd love to hear it.


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