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hdynad 08-19-2017 08:13 AM

Blue Java pre flag leaf???
 
Calling all experts, about 3 days ago this leaf popped up on my Blue Java and is only 1/2 the length of the others and is straight up. Now i know from ready many post the it could possible be a flag or pre flag leaf. Here is where i am confused, it is only 5 ft. tall. Healthy and happy of course, i didn't think it was supposed to flower until it was over 10 ft tall. Maybe it is not a flag leaf at all what do you all think.

i am not going to get excited yet :)

Darla






Botanical_Bryce 08-19-2017 09:30 AM

Re: Blue Java pre flag leaf???
 
Looks like a dwarf something flagging. Looks nothing like blue Java. The petioles are too short.

hdynad 08-19-2017 05:14 PM

Re: Blue Java pre flag leaf???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Botanical_Bryce (Post 308588)
Looks like a dwarf something flagging. Looks nothing like blue Java. The petioles are too short.

Thanks, got to figure out what this nanner is, any ideas? I Purchased this banana from a member that is know for Blue Java, .must of gotten mixed up. I put this one in the ground 3 months ago I can't believe it is possibly going to flower, kind of cool.

Darla

Botanical_Bryce 08-19-2017 06:40 PM

Re: Blue Java pre flag leaf???
 
If I turn out wrong you will have to address soil quality. I have plants that fruit tall but the people growing them had them fruiting at 3 to 4 feet in poor soil. I still think those petioles are pretty short.

crazy banana 08-19-2017 09:47 PM

Re: Blue Java pre flag leaf???
 
That is weird. My Blue Java usually fruits around 12'. And I am 100% sure that I have sent you a Blue Java.
I remember that you were saying that the plant/p-stem had some slight damage when you received it and you had staked it up somehow. Is that correct? Maybe it is related to that or like mentioned above, it is growing out of some kind of deficiency. Remarkable the growing rate from about 24" pup mid May this year in only 3 month to 5'. No mix up on your end?
I don't think it is a pre-flag leaf. Usually there is some bunching of the leaves at the top of the plant and you will also see some bulging where the inflorescence is about to come out. It is hard to tell by your photos, but my best guess is that you probably will have to wait for an inflorescence. No matter what, keep us all posted. Interesting case we can all learn from.

hdynad 08-19-2017 10:27 PM

Re: Blue Java pre flag leaf???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy banana (Post 308618)
That is weird. My Blue Java usually fruits around 12'. And I am 100% sure that I have sent you a Blue Java.
I remember that you were saying that the plant/p-stem had some slight damage when you received it and you had staked it up somehow. Is that correct? Maybe it is related to that or like mentioned above, it is growing out of some kind of deficiency. Remarkable the growing rate from about 24" pup mid May this year in only 3 month to 5'. No mix up on your end?
I don't think it is a pre-flag leaf. Usually there is some bunching of the leaves at the top of the plant and you will also see some bulging where the inflorescence is about to come out. It is hard to tell by your photos, but my best guess is that you probably will have to wait for an inflorescence. No matter what, keep us all posted. Interesting case we can all learn from.


Thanks for seeing the post, , no staking on this end, banana arrived in perfect condition in May and i put it in a pot for a short period of time and then put it in the ground then it took off. Been using fruit fuel every other week, obtw i love the stuff, all fruiting trees and nanners are happy campers. Will keep everyone posted.

happy growing,

Darla

crusader657 08-20-2017 08:45 AM

Re: Blue Java pre flag leaf???
 
Can't wait to find out for sure what banana that is, it's really gorgeous Daria.

hdynad 08-22-2017 07:45 PM

Re: Blue Java pre flag leaf???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy banana (Post 308618)
That is weird. My Blue Java usually fruits around 12'. And I am 100% sure that I have sent you a Blue Java.
I remember that you were saying that the plant/p-stem had some slight damage when you received it and you had staked it up somehow. Is that correct? Maybe it is related to that or like mentioned above, it is growing out of some kind of deficiency. Remarkable the growing rate from about 24" pup mid May this year in only 3 month to 5'. No mix up on your end?
I don't think it is a pre-flag leaf. Usually there is some bunching of the leaves at the top of the plant and you will also see some bulging where the inflorescence is about to come out. It is hard to tell by your photos, but my best guess is that you probably will have to wait for an inflorescence. No matter what, keep us all posted. Interesting case we can all learn from.


What do you make of this, it sprouted at the base of the small leaf. is this the inflorescence you are talking about?






any thoughts?

Darla

crazy banana 08-22-2017 08:57 PM

Re: Blue Java pre flag leaf???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hdynad (Post 308753)
What do you make of this, it sprouted at the base of the small leaf. is this the inflorescence you are talking about?






any thoughts?

Darla

I don't think it is an inflorescence. Looks like overfertilized, next leaf coming out quicker then the last one unfurled. If you use the Fruit Fuel, 3/4 cup dissolved in a bucket with 5 gallons of water ONCE a month should be sufficient.

Lau 08-22-2017 08:59 PM

Re: Blue Java pre flag leaf???
 
That kind of looks like a new leaf.:nanadrink:

hdynad 08-22-2017 09:05 PM

Re: Blue Java pre flag leaf???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy banana (Post 308759)
I don't think it is an inflorescence. Looks like overfertilized, next leaf coming out quicker then the last one unfurled. If you use the Fruit Fuel, 3/4 cup dissolved in a bucket with 5 gallons of water ONCE a month should be sufficient.

i have been taking 3 tsp to 1 gallon of water twice monthly but will cut it back to 1.

thanks

Darla


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