Re: Blue Java
 

Do you or any one know if the ones from the "Caribbean Dreams" nursery are legit blue java. My favorite nursery carries alot of there stuff. Looking at getting a dwarf mango from them

Re: Blue Java
 

If their plants are tissue cultures originally obtained from AgriStarts (which is the case with pretty much all wholesale nurseries), then it would be Namwah, not the actual Ice Cream.

Re: Blue Java
 

So I actually researched this. I called Agristarts and then there supplier at a wholesale nursery supplier specializing in bananas in South Florida. The lady I spoke with there stated that they are in fact blue java's and that the variation you see in the plants is due to the plants being in a myriad of different conditions. Soils, nutrients, temperatures etc. Makes sense. What do you think?

Re: Blue Java
 

The whole deal with AgriStarts is due to a mislabeling of tissue cultures. There was somehow a mix-up a few years back, and now what AgriStarts is selling as Blue Java is actually Namwah. The two plants are indistinguishable as tissue cultures. Namwah is a great plant, possibly better than the actual Blue Java, so you might as well give it a shot. You won't know for sure until it flowers anyways.

And while soil conditions and abiotic factors do affect the physical characteristics of the plant and its growth, what variety the plant is has to do with its DNA. No matter what the growing conditions are, a plant of the same variety will always produce the same fruit, and will able to be identified based on the characteristics of the flowers and male bud.

Re: Blue Java
 

That's good that you looked into it. So this variation just happens to be that everywhere they're grown they look and taste like dwarf namwahs? The two fruit are so totally different in taste, shape, peel color, and texture that there is no way this could be a variation issue.

Re: Blue Java
 

The thanks is for the sarcasm. But you are probably right if that is the case. Man that is pretty bogus that they are selling improperly marked merchandise. Somebody should put a stop to it. But "it is what it is" and that is why we have forum like this in order to clear stuff like that up and get the word out.

Re: Blue Java
 

so......

Anyone know where I can get real blue javas?

Re: Blue Java
 

x2

Re: Blue Java
 

X3!!!

Re: Blue Java
 

I say if you buy a Banana tagged Blue Java / Ice Cream.. as long as it doesn't end up being an Orinoco or a cavendish its all good. :^)

Re: Blue Java
 

San Diego Botanical Gardens has it.

Re: Blue Java
 

it doesn't let me purchase anything

Re: Blue Java
 

X3!!!

Re: Blue Java
 

if your true blue java is giving you problems, I can take them off your hands

Re: Blue Java
 

Please know the sarcasm is directed at their response and not to you in any way. I'm actually very appreciative that you looked into it and got a response from them as it's clear that someone need to do that. I apologize if my sarcasm towards Agristarts minimized my appreciation of your efforts!

Re: Blue Java
 

Yes, San Diego Botanical Gardens (Quail Gardens) doesn't sell their plants.

Re: Blue Java
 

Btw your garden is awesome

Re: Blue Java
 

I just cut down 6 ice cream pups this week. What started off as one 3 foot pup turned into 9-10 monsters in 10 months.

I'll probably dig up the whole matt after the fruit ripens. The fruit doesn't taste that great and it pups way too much.

Re: Blue Java
 

Try dwarf namwah. Another mega-pupper. At least it tastes good. And its a true dwarf.

Re: Blue Java
 

I have 2 dwarf namwahs. One should fruit in a month or so. Also have a Mysore. I hear the Mysore fruit tastes pretty good too.