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Raules 11-09-2010 02:57 AM

Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
All hello! I here had such question. I have bought seeds Musa Balbisiana from our suppliers. They about them have no exact information, have told only that they have been collected in India. Seeds have sprouted also I has landed plants in a ground. It certainly, to all signs is Musa Balbisiana. But when they have started to become more, I have noticed that the pseudostem has more dark coloring. Probably it Musa Balbisiana ' Gigantea ' or other version Musa Balbisiana? Look please at pictures who had experience of cultivation Musa Balbisiana, I would like to hear your opinion. I have still thought. Dark color of a pseudostem can has appeared because of low night temperature in a greenhouse? I wait for your opinion.







Dalmatiansoap 11-09-2010 05:42 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
My B. Gigantea has also darker stem colour. Not so dark as yours but kind of "dark bronze".
:woohoonaner:

Raules 11-09-2010 06:43 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
Ante, and it is possible to see your pictures?

Dalmatiansoap 11-09-2010 07:00 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
Looks like I dont have any. I will try to get in chance to shoot some later after work today.

Dalmatiansoap 11-09-2010 01:59 PM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
This is the best I can get with this camera in todays light conditions


:woohoonaner:

RobG7aChattTN 11-09-2010 08:53 PM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
Those look like 'Thai Black', which is a form of balbisiana. They actually have more color than mine which I bought as 'Thai Black'.

Raules 11-10-2010 03:00 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
All hello! I even find it difficult to answer this hour that it can be. Musa balbisiana ' Black Thai ' can grow in India? At younger age, my plants had no dark stains on a trunk. Here patterns of these plants in the summer. Whether the temperature can influence a plant? Write, I will be glad to hear you.



griphuz 11-10-2010 04:06 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
Hello Andrei,

Offtopic: I see you also grow Manihot grahamii? Does it do well for you, and did you get it from seed?

Kind regards,
Remko

Raules 11-10-2010 06:20 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
Hello Remko! I have understood about what you ask. Yes, at us in a botanical garden grows Manihot grahamii. Only I am not engaged in these plants. I don't have information about them. I will specify about these plants at other employee who is engaged in these plants and I will write to you about it. Concerning Musa balbisiana. I have looked at patterns Musa balbisiana ' Black Thai ', in different stages of development and have compared them to the. And I will tell that it is possible can is Musa balbisiana ' Black Thai '. I have eliminated at once this variant because didn't think that Musa balbisiana ' Black Thai ' can grow in India. Though the supplier of seeds, could give me not the true information, and has sold as normal Musa balbisiana as simply buy seeds. And seeds can be from Thailand, instead of from India. But I, if am fair, even is glad to such error if it appears Musa balbisiana ' Black Thai '.

Markku Hakkinen 11-14-2010 07:47 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 


Hi Raules,
This tall M.balbisiana variety is the one from the several ones from China.
Markku.

Markku Hakkinen 11-14-2010 07:51 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 


And here is its mature fruits.

Dalmatiansoap 11-14-2010 01:16 PM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Markku Hakkinen (Post 147517)


Hi Raules,
This tall M.balbisiana variety is the one from the several ones from China.
Markku.

They hardly can be more "gigant" than this ones:ha:
:woohoonaner:

Raules 11-14-2010 06:22 PM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
Thanks Markku!
Good pictures! I was recently in a garden and have made pictures of new pictures.









Raules 04-04-2011 05:29 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
All hello! Has passed time and I have made new pictures. Till now I can not understand what is it?!? On a plant it is visible black stains, but whether it concerns to Musa ' Black Thai '? And on the other hand it isn't similar on regular Musa balbisiana.
It is closer to Musa Balbisiana ' Gigantea ' or Musa balbisiana ' Black Thai '. I wait for your opinion.














ChuckT 04-04-2011 08:53 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
Hello, It doesn't look anywhere near dark enough for Black Thai. I have 2 that are growing in fairly deep shade and the stems are much darker than yours. There is so much variability in some of these, unless you are sure of your seed source it's rather hard to tell. Here's my big one:


For whatever reason the image doesn't want to post, but it's in my gallery.

sunfish 04-04-2011 08:57 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckT (Post 158593)
Hello, It doesn't look anywhere near dark enough for Black Thai. I have 2 that are growing in fairly deep shade and the stems are much darker than yours. There is so much variability in some of these, unless you are sure of your seed source it's rather hard to tell. Here's my big one:


For whatever reason the image doesn't want to post, but it's in my gallery.



ChuckT's photo

nannerfunboi 04-04-2011 02:28 PM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
great pics raules..and sunfish.. as always :08:
i bought a really nice corm of balbisiana giant.. off ebay couple
months ago.. it sat for awhile..but now it has sent up a shoot ..its
about 10" long..and there are 2 side shoots now comming up..
YEA !!
ive got to start taking pics of my plants.. im so jealous of ya all
showing progress on your seedlings/plants/overwintering..
much thanks to u !!!:goteam:

Raules 04-08-2011 12:37 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
Yes, I agree, coloring can be and more darkly and is more light. I have seen many photo Musa ' Black Thai ' and all of them different. It also misleads me. ChuckT, thanks for a photo, it simply handsome man at you! Dark color gives it the individual beauty.

Raules 07-21-2011 06:03 AM

Re: Musa Balbisiana 'Gigantea'?
 
All hello! Has passed a few time and the plant has enough grown. My opinion that it nevertheless Musa Balbisiana ' Gigantea '. Dark pigmentation has disappeared, which was on the basis of leaves. It already very much isn't similar on Musa balbisiana ' Black Thai '. The plant has shown some puppies. They have a wax covering on a stalk, it is visible while the young. At an adult plant восковый the touch gradually disappears. What you will be opinion?












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