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Dalmatiansoap
Let there be light
Registered: December 2008
Location: Makarska, Croatia
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Fri January 8, 2010 12:50am
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Rating: 10.00
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Roystona regia
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sunfish
Banned
Registered: April 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 18430
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Fri January 8, 2010 12:55am
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Roystonea regia
got seed
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Caloosamusa
Registered: March 2008
Posts: 3578
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Fri January 8, 2010 1:55am
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Roystonia elata,or one of the other species. Not the cuban form (regia). (I cannot see the base, but the trunk is straighter). The regia's trunk is a slightly darker color, and the Ph D student who got his doctorate in part by lumping the different Roystonias together is based upon his one trip to the area. He did not study them long enough to notice the differences in fruits, trunk and base form differences.
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Dalmatiansoap
Let there be light
Registered: December 2008
Location: Makarska, Croatia
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Fri January 8, 2010 2:08am
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R. elata is synonim for R. regia.
This even might be borinquena variety as they are grown in CA and is hardyer than Regia.
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sunfish
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Registered: April 2008
Location: San Diego
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Fri January 8, 2010 2:21am
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This is not the same palm I have seen in Florida. At least the trunk is not as fat.
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Caloosamusa
Registered: March 2008
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Fri January 8, 2010 2:27am
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Many of the ones you see in South Florida are regia, the cuban form. Elata is found mostly in Sate Preserves, and by a few Native Plant folks here, it is a threatened species. Even though some authors site regia as synomic with eleta, they are not. Yes it could be a Puerto Rican form as they are more like the Florida form than the Cuban form. I cannot see the base on that one. The lighter colored trunk is found on both elata and the Puerto Rican form.
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cherokee_greg
Love those bananas
Registered: August 2009
Location: Fresno,CA
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Taylor
Registered: August 2006
Location: VA
Posts: 2084
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Fri January 8, 2010 6:52am
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There is a lot of variation between individual Royals. Like Ante said, Roystonea elata is a synonym for Roystonea regia, and most of the planted Royals in Florida are Cubans, with few real native Royals (Florida type).
I have seed if you want some, Tony. PM me.
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-John G. Stoessinger, Why Nations Go To War
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Taylor
Registered: August 2006
Location: VA
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Fri January 8, 2010 6:58am
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I just read what Caloosamusa said. They are considered the same since the differences are so indistinguishable, even by Robert Lee Riffle. I have never heard that the lighter trunk denotes any ecotype.
Royals aren't very common in California to begin with, and that's a pretty good looking one to boot.
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"When Momcilo Krajisnik, Karadzic's successor, was asked about the chances of restoring a multiethnic unitary Bosnia, he responded with biting sarcasm: "You can't grow bananas here," he said, "bananas may grow in Africa but not here." He was not alone."
-John G. Stoessinger, Why Nations Go To War
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sunfish
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Registered: April 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 18430
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Fri January 8, 2010 7:38am
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Thanks but I got seed from this one.This is palm is really out of place there isn't another one around here that I know of.
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Taylor
Registered: August 2006
Location: VA
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Fri January 8, 2010 9:44am
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It's a nice find!
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"When Momcilo Krajisnik, Karadzic's successor, was asked about the chances of restoring a multiethnic unitary Bosnia, he responded with biting sarcasm: "You can't grow bananas here," he said, "bananas may grow in Africa but not here." He was not alone."
-John G. Stoessinger, Why Nations Go To War
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