Sneak preview and BananaBuck Giveaway!

Richard · 09-13-2008, 02:02 AM

Hi folks,
I could sure use your feedback on my new online store, so ...

I'm giving away 100 to 500 bananabucks for each new suggestion I can implement and especially for errors, typos, etc. you might find. I'll mark your reply to this thread with "Thanks" each time I've sent some bananabucks your way. I'm planning on giving away a total of 10,000 bananabucks, maybe more if we really get on a roll.

I'm calling this a "preview" because I have yet to implement the shopping cart in my store. Here's the URL to check out:
Products From Plants That Produce!

Thanks!

stumpy4700 · 09-13-2008, 02:13 AM

The site looks great. I'll check back on it in late Feb for nana fert. Good Job

Chironex · 09-13-2008, 02:31 AM

Very nice Richard! I need to know what you recommend for the cruddy soil I have here. I would like to plant some of my more hardy bananas in the ground. I know that this will mean digging a huge hole and filling it with good soil. But, what can I do to improve the margins of the hole once the banana outgrows the confines of the hole. Is there anything that can help make the soil more "palatable" for my bananas?

BTW, there is a typo that I just noticed - Heinz 57, (not Heintz) under the description for Kellogg Nitrohumus.

I will keep checking it over. I am sure we will be doing some business. Where is the K mag stuff?

Scot

Chironex · 09-13-2008, 02:35 AM

Truncated sentence under Clay Soil Amendments -Bundle 1 heading:
Why pay $2 or more extra for a spray head on a product bottle

when you can use your own sprayer with no waste and no mixing?

Richard · 09-13-2008, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chironex

... Where is the K mag stuff?

Scot

Potassium Supplements From Plants That Produce

harveyc · 09-15-2008, 11:17 AM

Looks good so far, Richard.

Richard, do you plan to offer pots? Some of the nicer pots out there, like Rootmaker, are only available in larger quantities. I've considered getting them but want different sizes and can't talk myself into ordering that many pots.

I use mals e-commerce for my cart which directs payments through PayPal but I could easily/quickly set it up for another credit card vendor if I chose (that's why I used it instead of PayPal's cart). It's also nice for other reasons which I won't get into here. PayPal's rates are a bit higher for my first month of my chestnut sales but then volume is high enough that it drops down to a reasonable level.

I also use kall8.com for my toll free numbers. Voice mails can get e-mailed to me or I can have calls forwarded to any number of my choosing. Grandcentral (or something like that) offers some other service that is somewhat similar without toll free services, but it's been a while since I've checked that out.

Include lots of photos!

Good luck!

momoese · 09-15-2008, 12:21 PM

A few typos on the Bark, Mulch , and Compost page

Acheive should be Achieve

Consistant should be Consistent

And is Nitrohumis one word or two?

Does it matter that I cheated to find these? I copied and pasted into Word!

I only checked that one page though.

momoese · 09-15-2008, 06:34 PM

On your "are you growing organically" page which I really enjoyed reading I couldn't help but notice you make no reference to Veganic gardening. Where would that fit in to the examples you gave? It's my understanding that Veganic growing methods use only organically grown plant waste/compost. No animal by products can be used, but what about naturally occurring minerals and such that have been mined?

Do you have an opinion on this way of growing?

Dean W. · 09-15-2008, 07:26 PM

Looks great, Richard! I'll have to read some more later.

BIGDAWG69 · 09-16-2008, 01:30 AM

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Richard · 09-16-2008, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by momoese

On your "are you growing organically" page which I really enjoyed reading I couldn't help but notice you make no reference to Veganic gardening. Where would that fit in to the examples you gave? It's my understanding that Veganic growing methods use only organically grown plant waste/compost. No animal by products can be used, but what about naturally occurring minerals and such that have been mined?

Mitchel, prior to writing the article I discussed "vegan" growing with many people here in San Diego county. Even among people with a vegan diet, it seems that there are several narrow (and sometimes defiant) definitions of "vegan gardening". So I opted to coin a new term "bio-organic" and also give them the word "strict" to play with. Of the Vegans who read the article, some of them said that their practices are more "progressive", or "strictly vegetarian", and I think in general they now understand that their choices are more individual than universal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by momoese

Do you have an opinion on this way of growing?

Well, maybe some observations. The first concerns the diet motivations of vegetarians and the stricter vegans. Now among vegetarians there are those whose principle desire is to not eat slaughtered animals and in general these folks are opposed to raising animals for food. However, the vast majority of this group will drink milk because they see it as a "natural" phenomena in our world. Vegans are essentially a schism of vegetarians that reject this idea, although they appear to be internally conflicted over the issue of human milk. My observation is that "Veganism" is a faith-based principle, and is not based on any external heuristic or observable physical/biological process.

My second observation is that for organic and especially vegan gardeners to produce sustainable, self-sufficient crops over many years tilling the same soil, they will incur substantial costs in plant nutrition: 5 to 10 times more than those willing to work with nutrients from non-plant sources. For example, phosphorus that has been chemically extracted from poultry manure is far cheaper than phosphorus extracted from plants -- because it is uncommon for plants to have phosphorus in significant quantity. Consequently, as organic gardeners "wear-out" the minerals originally in their soil, the replacement costs become high.

Richard · 09-16-2008, 11:48 AM

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Ivey, Thanks for the validators! Although I think they more conform to Microsoft's idea of HTML than say, w3.org. For example, it's perfectly o.k. to have a "table" within the scope of a "span", but both of these validators reject it.

momoese · 09-16-2008, 12:57 PM

Thanks Richard!

Richard · 09-16-2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

Ivey, Thanks for the validators! Although I think they more conform to Microsoft's idea of HTML than say, w3.org. For example, it's perfectly o.k. to have a "table" within the scope of a "span", but both of these validators reject it.

Wow, the CSE Validator is paying for itself now! It caught several typos in the html code.

saltydad · 09-17-2008, 02:37 AM

Boy, folks are coming up with a few corrections, and I didn't see any! I really looked, 'cause I want those darn nanabucks :-) Seriously, it is an impressive site., and it should help the orders roll in.( BTW, how much for a lawn/garden appraisal for me in Maryland?)

damaclese · 09-17-2008, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

Mitchel, prior to writing the article I discussed "vegan" growing with many people here in San Diego county. Even among people with a vegan diet, it seems that there are several narrow (and sometimes defiant) definitions of "vegan gardening". So I opted to coin a new term "bio-organic" and also give them the word "strict" to play with. Of the Vegans who read the article, some of them said that their practices are more "progressive", or "strictly vegetarian", and I think in general they now understand that their choices are more individual than universal.

Well, maybe some observations. The first concerns the diet motivations of vegetarians and the stricter vegans. Now among vegetarians there are those whose principle desire is to not eat slaughtered animals and in general these folks are opposed to raising animals for food. However, the vast majority of this group will drink milk because they see it as a "natural" phenomena in our world. Vegans are essentially a schism of vegetarians that reject this idea, although they appear to be internally conflicted over the issue of human milk. My observation is that "Veganism" is a faith-based principle, and is not based on any external heuristic or observable physical/biological process.

My second observation is that for organic and especially vegan gardeners to produce sustainable, self-sufficient crops over many years tilling the same soil, they will incur substantial costs in plant nutrition: 5 to 10 times more than those willing to work with nutrients from non-plant sources. For example, phosphorus that has been chemically extracted from poultry manure is far cheaper than phosphorus extracted from plants -- because it is uncommon for plants to have phosphorus in significant quantity. Consequently, as organic gardeners "wear-out" the minerals originally in their soil, the replacement costs become high.

I'm sure i will incur the Vegan wrath for this but from a medical stand point its unheahthy we are omnivores plain and simple many vegans suffer from a loss of health brain tissue because of a lack of OMEGA 3 fatty acids I'm sure you all have talked to a vegan and come away with that feeling that some how they where not firing on all cylinders so to speck this is a prim example of how the lake of OMEGA 3 acid loss in the brain starts to affect the thinking processes not to mention the slow deterioration of the hart muscle from low protein intake studies have show that the synthesis of hole nucleic aside chains derived form the typical vegan food intake is low at best and most of them are not wiling to eat enough to get the required amounts necessary! i had a friend that died she was a vegan and wouldn't listen to here doctor she never got enough protean and even when she fell ill and was in the hospital refused to let them give here synthetic Nutrition because it couldn't be granted to be vegan and in the end its way to much work!!! sorry i hope this doesn't offend or vier from the thread to much

Richard · 03-16-2009, 11:08 PM

Here's my new toy -- a 24" wide impulse sealer! It is used to seal bags of fertilizer, soil, etc.

My favorite use of this is to take a 25-lb bag of nutrients which is in the wrong shape for a Flat-Rate box and repackage it so that it fits. Presto! The shipping cost drops from $71 to $14.

Chironex · 03-17-2009, 01:26 AM

Richard, I wonder if you might add a section about container grown plant amendments. Perhaps you will also offer containers, since you seem to be connected with some great sources.
I don't care for any B/B, just a thought.

Richard · 03-17-2009, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chironex

Richard, I wonder if you might add a section about container grown plant amendments. Perhaps you will also offer containers, since you seem to be connected with some great sources.
I don't care for any B/B, just a thought.

Thanks Scot! Although as Tony (sunfish) will attest, I have a bit of paperwork on my desk to take care of first. Also I would like to add shipment/delivery options for will-call and pick-up at farmers' markets.

Worm_Farmer · 03-18-2009, 12:41 AM

At check out when I put in my zip code I do not see a charge for shipping, or any mention to free shipping.

Is there a way you could accept Paypal? Right now you only accept google check out.

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stumpy4700 Going Ape for Bananas stumpy4700 's Photo Gallery Location: Satellite Beach, Fla Find me on the map! Zone: Zone 10 Name: Stumpy-----a.k.a Jeff Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,194 BananaBucks : 46,177 Feedback: 3 / 100% Said "Thanks" 1,353 Times Was Thanked 678 Times in 349 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 1,300 Times	Re: Sneak preview and BananaBuck Giveaway! The site looks great. I'll check back on it in late Feb for nana fert. Good Job

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Chironex The causasian Asian! Chironex's Photo Gallery Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Find me on the map! Zone: I have no idea Name: Scot Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,788 BananaBucks : 138,994 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 4,544 Times Was Thanked 1,406 Times in 808 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 609 Times	Re: Sneak preview and BananaBuck Giveaway! Very nice Richard! I need to know what you recommend for the cruddy soil I have here. I would like to plant some of my more hardy bananas in the ground. I know that this will mean digging a huge hole and filling it with good soil. But, what can I do to improve the margins of the hole once the banana outgrows the confines of the hole. Is there anything that can help make the soil more "palatable" for my bananas? BTW, there is a typo that I just noticed - Heinz 57, (not Heintz) under the description for Kellogg Nitrohumus. I will keep checking it over. I am sure we will be doing some business. Where is the K mag stuff? Scot __________________ Scot

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Chironex The causasian Asian! Chironex's Photo Gallery Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Find me on the map! Zone: I have no idea Name: Scot Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,788 BananaBucks : 138,994 Feedback: 9 / 100% Said "Thanks" 4,544 Times Was Thanked 1,406 Times in 808 Posts Said "Welcome to Bananas" 609 Times	Re: Sneak preview and BananaBuck Giveaway! Truncated sentence under Clay Soil Amendments -Bundle 1 heading: Why pay $2 or more extra for a spray head on a product bottle when you can use your own sprayer with no waste and no mixing? __________________ Scot

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