saltydad

Just to make a statement about this forum, not the election. It's obvious that we have a lot of members who disagree wildly with each others political leanings, yet we manage to stay and have a community here that treats each other with respect around our common interests, not differences. I treasure that, and see us banana lovers as a family that has it's ups and downs but stays together throughout. Thank you Jarred for that, and thanks to each of you out there in nana land.

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I agree 100%.


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mike

First of all let me apologize to anyone who I really offended by my comments or the way they were said that was not my intention remember only average. Not to those who chose to act offended for spin. If you read what I said my point was proven by comments being taking out of context and turned. Let me say this again VOTE FOR WHO YOU WANT. I don't work for Obama I am an independent American citizen who cares about not only me and my family but the family of others.

Yes I place some fault to the present administration for the simple fact that if everything was good they would be credited for it. I hear and understand the comment about bad lending practices but come on, with the lost of jobs. Factory jobs that are slowly letting go American workers and hiring illegal alien's for obvious reasons. I can't blame the businesses because why should they be legal in there actions and go out of business. If actions are taken to prosecute businesses involved in the illegal hiring then everyone can play on a even playing fields. Americans would have descent paying jobs, taxes would be paid, Americans can spend their money in America resulting in a good economy, see how that works. I say this just to say not everyone who lost their homes were careless or received a loan that they should not have.

I support Obama but the only thing I got against McCain is that he's changing his positions. I think he is a good man based on some of his past positions not the best campaigner though. My hopes and prayers are that this is to get elected only. I can deal with that and feel that he will do what's best for the country not a party. I chose Obama because his campaigning is about doing things different. I don't think we should be doing things the same and hoping something different happens this doesn't make sense to me. I understand this administration benefited some. I also believe they are the minority.

The economy is in the worst shape that I have ever seen in my adult life and I don't believe just because it was bad before that it should be that way again. Learn from pass mistakes so they are not repeated. These are only my feelings so don't get upset or stop me from being apart of this forum that I love.

Chong that was good, telling others how to take my comments. Acting upset in turn getting others to want to be upset LOL but it works. You are definitely a leader. I apologize Chong that I don't post much but I am here a lot. I love to read the questions and comments of the member and the great pics. There are so many people here that give much better answers to questions than I can. If what I think is not better or different from what some other member have posted then I don't post. I learned most of what I know about growing naners from this site so I probably won't have better advice than my teachers. I try to welcome new members because I see the excitement and try to share the love for growing. I don't believe I ever said it but thanks to all the you for sharing the knowledge.

fishman0422

MIKE, you certainly didn't offend me. You have the right to your own opinion. And I didn't read anything hateful. To think anyone would try to keep you from this forum, unless maybe if you were preaching hate, I think is ridiculous.
However I really didn't spin, turn or take anything out of context. I only went by what you literally wrote. While you didn't offend me you did upset me. I just feel if people paid attention, I MEAN REALLY PAID ATTENTION there is no way anyone in their right mind would vote for Obama. There are so many warning signs. He says he's for change but he hasn't said how he's going to change a darned thing. As a matter of FACT what he has said thus far has come right out of the liberal democratic playbook. But Obama is different not because he wants to make America better but because he doesn't seem to love America at all and his actions insinuate that.
I can't make you see things the way you should Mike about the economy. It does go up, it does go down. It's not like we can force people to buy things or not to buy things when the country needs them too. There are always going to be slow downs. I know it was piddly, but at least the Bush administation sent out the tax cut checks, and for quite some time the democrats have been trying to stop that. Obama recently mentioned tearing down the wall between the haves and the have-nots. Well other than taking from the haves and giving to the have-nots how do you do that? You don't.
Listen, this reply could go on forever so I should just make it short. I just think you're going to make a mistake, a lot of people are. I wouldn't want you to stop posting, hell post more! I love a debate.
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Ahava

I'd like change too, but it would be nice for once to have a candidate that shows a true passion for this country. Wearing a flag on one's suit may not seem like a big deal to some, but can you imagine if Obama ran 30-40 years ago, or so, and he didn't wear a flag pin, or salute the flag and his wife said the things she did. People would have been horrified by it all. He would have been tarred and feathered and ran out of town. Where has the values gone? It'd be nice to find a someone running that looks closer to home, and who would talk about the kids, and family values. Talk about the farmers, and the agriculture industry what can be done for them, talk about real issues. Both of these candidates seemed to find a subject and beat the dead horse to death for weeks. I guess it's too much to ask for in this day and age. Maybe before we talk about the presidential candidate maybe we need to fire all of Congress and the senate, and all those as MsKitty puts it hoo-has and start over. I'm starting to think a regular Joe off the street could, ((or a monkey dressed in a business suit)) could to a better job than those morons too busy lobbying for money, not giving a rat's ... about the people one bit. Maybe we need a raffle. LOL.

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fishman0422

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, THANK YOU!

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Ahava

I know. There are probably alot of us that feels the same way. I mean I'm not a fan of of any of the Clinton's but at least she put her hand over her heart ((I sort of wished she would have sidled over and smacked Obama in the back of his head during that event...)) The symbolism behind his actions speaks volumes, the things he's said, and done. People can say it's not a big deal. In a day and age where kid's no longer say the flag salute in school just because there's the word God in it... what are the kids being taught? Where has the respect for the foundation of the forefather's gone? We're a relatively young country... I don't care if someone's black, white, pink, yellow, purple, or blue. But if they don't have a measure of respect for something so simple...? How could I trust them with the complex? And the things that really matter?

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fishman0422

Now that is a statement I can relate to! I knew there was a lot of debate about the whole Pledge of Allegience thing but I wasn't aware of any schools actually stopping it. Fortunately in our public school district they DO say the Pledge. I am by no means religous and I really don't even believe, AND I WOULD NOT WANT THEM TO CHANGE A THING!

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Ahava

To me, even though I am a believer it's not the religious context of it that holds meaning to me, but the principle behind it. It's tradition and some traditions should just be respected for what they are. And it should be respected for what it is. I saw a news recording some time back about some schools completely stopping it who knows if they resumed it. People fought and bled on the battlefield for what that flag symbolizes. I think that in itself deserves respect. It still appalls me to no end that a person running for President, the most respected position of office in the U.S. can't even respect our nation's symbol of Freedom, and understand why it's important that he does so... it's something so relatively simple... so very simple.

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fishman0422

Well said Ahava, very well said! We need a banana smiley holding an American flag.

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mskitty38583

THATS RIGHT! we need to hold on to what the constitution was based upon...not throw it out because someone has a problem with one word in it. i dont give a rats tail if they come from outerspace..if you want to live in my country you do it our way. if mr. i cant salute the flag and wants to have tea with the enemy, let him. i dont like him, i dont trust him and his wife can just move with him and wear that stupid veil over her head and remember....over there she is just a piece of meat.

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Ahava

I'd vote for that banana! In all seriousness I feel that I've said more than enough on this subject. I agree with the both of you on many accounts. And I can understand some of how those on the otherside of the fence feel as well. I really do believe we're all looking for some sort of change and we're desperate to get it whereever we can. Sadly we're left with the two idiots running for office and to every person whose going to vote, I feel this election is basically vote for the lesser of two evils. How far we have fallen. >.>;

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fishman0422

How come it doesn't appall EVERYBODY? Why would citizens of this country vote for this guy? Did somebody put something in their cheese fries?

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Ahava

It's all the steroids and expiremental chemicals in all our food they feed us in the states. They're making us not only fat... but a little off... as well. I haven't been able to fathom how people think it's all honky dory that Obama chose to sit his family in front of that psycho who loved to sermonize a crowd with all that filthy hate speech for a couple decades and they think that he's still sane after listening to that hoopla for so long. I can imagine Obama sitting in the pew and clapping and nodding, shouting amen along with the crowd when that man was talking about damning america and how god should die if he isn't only for african americans, screw the rest of the world. How is that okay? I haven't figured out that one yet.

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mskitty38583

because people want change. stupid idiot over here has great charisma and sure he drawls a crowd....well so do the clinics when they give out the flu shots or bags of condoms....duh!

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fishman0422

McCain wasn't my choice, but I don't think he's an idiot. I don't agree with some of his positions, and he hasn't stood up for enough. He needs to take the gloves off with his campaign and hopefully he will. He does however LOVE this country and I know he WANTS to do the right thing. He wants government to be more fiscally responsible, he wants to get rid of the ear marks and he realizes the need for government to be smaller and less intrusive.

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