CookieCows

That just made me bust out laughing

Deb

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chong

Hear! Hear! ! ! ! !

Thanks, Miss Sam.

saltydad

Chong-

Hope your son is doing fine now. G-d bless him, from an old Army medic.

Howard

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Kylie2x

I fly The American Flag EVERYDAY.. I Pray for everyone who has made the choice to serve this great country and their families and the families of those who have lost there loved ones!!!
I'm not happy with the choices we have for President.. BUT I will be there to vote!!!
My Grandfather ,my Father, my Step Father and my Daughter are all Veterans!!!




I'm votin for Willie Nelson!!!

proletariatcsp

Fellow Herbivores, and occasional Carnivores,

What I am about to say will probably not come as news to most of you here. From what I have gathered since joining is, there are allot of intelligent people on this forum. One can only conclude that abnormally high levels of potassium may have been directly attributed to herbaceous dieting. Therefor resulting in substantially increased levels of N-P-K, pH, and IQ, respectively. However. . .

The most frustrating concept of our democracy is the division of the presidential electoral process, and the manner for which we elect.

I’d often wonder if we would be without a president, if one was not elected. Only I know that we would have a president since the delegates would still determine the winner.

We, the ordinary and politically unaffiliated need not vote to secure the next likely candidates’ presidency, we merely push a button, punch a ticket, or check the appropriate box to keep our opponent from scoring tic-tac-toe.

If we like our choices or not, really does not matter–-but they should--and we have made it that way. I suppose there was a time when Democrats and Republicans shared such similar values and ideals that, if one candidate was unremarkable by his own resolve, than the people simply chose the better man.

Today the game is played by a much less complicated standard of principals. The electoral process has evolved into an insatiable quest for power, by a lifeless, emotionless, motivation of greed.

The enemy is upon us, though our own leader has betrayed and abandoned us as well. We now have but one choice, do we rise up and join the opposition or do we continue on our current path. We judge neither leader by his demeanor nor his tact, he may be without expression or smile mischievously, and still we are not concerned. It is in the words he will speak that lead us to agree or disagree with him only, we are bound by our conscience and fear our own hypocrisy.

For each of us, Republican and Democrat alike we know that the game is rigged, in that we cannot choose the candidates. So instead we choose a side, and be that as it may, any opposing candidate, one who would even appear to be better suited for the task would quickly be dismissed. As we close that curtain in November to justify our mark by saying, “I’ll be damned if I'll let a ----- win."

Some believe that it is irresponsible not to vote. I would like to reject that belief by simply saying, those who believe that, would rather elect a dictator or an imbecile, than to allow the opposition to win. That, is not only more irresponsible in my opinion but also reckless and immature.

Unfortunately that is the nature of our society, so I must vote and pretend to judge the candidate by his expressions of candor, his tact, and his clothes. Like that predisposition of social acceptance initiated in grade school, called a popularity contest. Which we now know as adults, taught us virtually nothing about what a person really was. And yet we continue to express ourselves with that same absence of logic.

So it is not surprising to hear intelligent people say that they believe we currently have a good president, when society shows us the way to be a leader is not by virtue of moral practices, but by our own egotistic prejudices.

mskitty38583

i just want someone in office who remembers and lives by this saying...."of the people, by the people, for the people, and in god we trust."

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CookieCows

I thought forsure that there is a place to write in a candidate of your choice on the ballot if you do not want to vote for either party running.

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fishman0422

That IS funny! Just goes to prove some of us are er...uh.. well......um...... aw forget it.

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fishman0422

While I can clearly see that if you and I sat down to chat over a cup of coffee I would have a hard time seeing eye to eye with your opinions and positions on politics.
I do, however, agree with the above quote. (Other than the DICTATOR part, we can't have one in this country) NOT VOTING IS VOTING! Just be sure that you are registered. If you are registered you are prepared to vote. When you do not approve of the candidates in question, hell yeah - stay home! A vote for no one is a vote for neither. HOWEVER, if your gonna be one of those who complains down the road saying "I knew that bum was gonna be no good" and you liked the other guy, you are not using the not voting route correctly.

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mskitty38583

it is funny when other people in other countries see how stupid politics in our country is but we cant see it here. almost makes one go crazy!

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"kokomo" beach boys:

mike

My beliefs are for the greater good of everyone. The way things are going gives me job security. A lot of people only think about themselves. A lot of people feel if they are not suffering then they can care less about everyone else and thats not me. If you are the in minority and this administration actually benefited you, then think about this.

If you sell a product there now are millions of people who are not going to be able to afford to purchase it but on the upside you will pay less taxes. You or your kids, grands, will soon follow the millions to the bottom.

Millions of immigrants working jobs formally held by Americans not paying taxes and sending their money to other country's.

Immigrants buying all the businesses formally owned by American's and only hiring people from their country.

Politicians only supporting immigrants needs because they owned the businesses and now are the middle class.

While we are worrying about a sound bite, a sentence out of a book, white or black, American's are becoming a minority in America.

Formally hard working honest American's turning to drugs or criminal activity because they are not able to cope. You can say this is bull ---- because you are not there. Tell me that when you are.

More kids growing up without parents because having no money causes stress and even more divorce. If you are able to, think what you would do to house and feed your kids. Most people won't just lie down and die they will do WHATEVER it takes.

If you are fortunate, you never had to want or need for anything and you never will. If for some reason you have to, well you know what usually happens to rich people that lose their money.

I can't see the future and I am of average intelligence as you may be able to tell. I saw this coming six years ago but we decided to continued on the same path.

Think about the things that are occurring and theses things already happen. Some of us will not live to see these things get to bad to were there is no fixes. Our kids and grands will.

I somewhat understand what it takes to be a politician. If you honestly believe that the most honest, the most religious or most moral people always win then you are a ------- lets just say you are wrong. If you believe everything that you read or see on T.V. then you are a even bigger -----. We are all born with gifts these gifts are what make us what or who we are. Know that most people are followers and not leaders. Most people feel one way or another because they learned to feel this way as a child or someone they strive to be like feels this way. These feelings are not yours. You are a follower.

We are all taught things growing up. Leaders live their lives and learn and form there own thoughts and options even if they go against what their peers feel. Leaders sometime use the fact they are to mislead or victimize to make money. Vote for who you want but please don't make false excuses why you don't want to vote for Obama. Be proud of who or what you are and be honest with yourself. If you don't like the direction this country is going and you really won't vote for Obama because he did not wear a pen, his wife said something that caused you pause, you think he is a Muslim, you don't like the comments of his Christian preacher then you have issues. If it's for the other reason then thats your reason but stop making yourself look like an ----.

Here is a project, get a recorder and record an hour conversation and let someone take a comment out that is not flattering if the statement does not come across the way you have meant for it to or they just get stuck on a certain statement (sound bite) just to get a little idea what these guys go through and let it be broadcast to your peers.

Another project, list all the people that you grew up with or around, list all the people that you have ever worked with, people you know now and family members. Now if you are a person that there is no record of you doing anything illegal or immoral and we ( people that don't know you) had to judge you by what the worst people on this list have done will you come out as clean as Obama. Enough of this bull---- I have bananas to feed, water and watch grow.

chong

Normally, I would not want to get entangled in political discussions with someone that I just heard from for the first time. But since, your assumption is that anyone not wanting to vote for Obama is based on “false excuses”, which you listed, is a “_____”, and that they should admit that it is because of “the other reason”, so you can stop calling them a “_____”, I need to ask, “What is ‘the other reason’?” Is “the other reason”, his voting record in the state and US senate? His experience as the Chairman of the Senate Oversight on Afgahnistan Committee? His overall experience? That they don’t know him? ? ? ? ?

Or, is it something derogatory? Not politically correct? If, so, then they deserve to be called “______”. I think that’s fair.

One of the things I've learned, in my old age, is that when people have formed their opinion on an issue, in any discussion, it is always counterproductive, not to mention disrespectful, to label them based on my perceived concept of the reason for their opinion. In fact, why label anyone, you’re talking to, at all? Conversation is a two-way street. I respect everyone’s personal opinion, no matter how much I disagree with it, and would be glad, if not honored, to discuss it with them. But I certainly would hope that the other party would extend the same respect for mine.

saltydad

As a member of Veterans for Obama....QFT

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momoese

Just curious what the abbreviation QFT stands for. You can pm me if you don't want to post it.

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Mitchel

momoese

I agree with much of what you say, just not the way you say it.

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