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Old 06-24-2010, 10:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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This was sent to me recently. I can't find anything on the internet that says it's false. It's very scary. A bit long but I think it's an interesting read. What do you all think?

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Strong For Containment
Dr. James P. Wickstrom
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It has been estimated by experts that the pressure which blows the oil into the Gulf waters is estimated to be between 20,000 and 70,000 PSI (pounds per square inch). Impossible to control.
What US Scientists Are Forbidden To Tell The Public About The Gulf
What you are about to read, is what the scientists in the United States are not allowed to tell you in great fear of the administration.
They are under the threat of severe repercussions to the max. Scientists confirming these findings cannot be named due to the above, but what they believe, they want to be known by all.
Take a U. S. map, lay it flat and measure inland just the minimum 50 miles of total destruction all around the Gulf of Mexico as to what you will read below.
The carnage to the United States is so staggering, it will take your breathe away.
Should what the scientists who are trying to warn everyone about be even close to being true... all of Florida will be completely destroyed as will everyone and everything on it.
You decide!! Everyone has the right to read what I have just written in this article, as well as to what is written below by the scientists who the administration and BP are trying to shut up.
Please share with as many as you can.
--Dr. James P. Wickstrom
SUMMARY OF WHAT IS HAPPENING
The estimated super high pressure release of oil from under the earth's crust is between 80,000 to 100,000 barrels per day.
The flow of oil and toxic gases is bringing up with it... rocks and sand which causes the flow to create a sandblasting effect on the remaining well head device currently somewhat restricting the flow, as well as the drilled hole itself.
As the well head becomes worn it enlarges the passageway allowing an ever-increasing flow. Even if some device could be placed onto the existing wellhead, it would not be able to shut off the flow, because what remains of the existing wellhead would not be able to contain the pressure.
The well head piping is originally about 2 inches thick. It is now likely to be less than 1 inch thick, and thinning by each passing moment. The oil has now reached the Gulf Stream and is entering the Oceanic current which is at least four times stronger than the current in the Gulf, which will carry it throughout the world within 18 months.
The oil along with the gasses, including benzene and many other toxins, is deleting the oxygen in the water. This is killing all life in the ocean. Along with the oil along the shores, there will be many dead fish, etc. that will have to be gathered and disposed of.
SUMMARY OF EXPECTATIONS
At some point the drilled hole in the earth will enlarge itself beneath the wellhead to weaken the area the wellhead rests upon. The intense pressure will then push the wellhead off the hole allowing a direct unrestricted flow of oil, etc.
The hole will continue to increase in size allowing more and more oil to rise into the Gulf. After several billion barrels of oil have been released, the pressure within the massive cavity five miles beneath the ocean floor will begin to normalize.
This will allow the water, under the intense pressure at 1 mile deep, to be forced into the hole and the cavity where the oil was. The temperature at that depth is near 400 degrees, possibly more.
The water will be vaporized and turned into steam, creating an enormous amount of force, lifting the Gulf floor. It is difficult to know how much water will go down to the core and therefore, its not possible to fully calculate the rise of the floor.
The tsunami wave this will create will be anywhere from 20 to 80 feet high, possibly more. Then the floor will fall into the now vacant chamber. This is how nature will seal the hole.
Depending on the height of the tsunami, the ocean debris, oil, and existing structures that will be washed away on shore and inland, will leave the area from 50 to 200 miles inland devoid of life. Even if the debris is cleaned up, the contaminants that will be in the ground and water supply will prohibit re-population of these areas for an unknown number of years.
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Some pretty hard stuff.
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sounds like a bunch of crap coming from a white supremacist. James Wickstrom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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If the wikipedia story is true, Dr. Wickstrom is a racist. But I don't see any connection between racism and environmental disasters. Are Lindsey Williams, the BP informants, and Alex Jones racists? If Wickstrom and the others stories prove to be right, it won't matter what they are. This thing is very scary and I think we will learn more about it by talking about "it" instead of religeon or racism... imo, racism/Wickstrom could be better focused on in a new thread.
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smells alot like urban legend/hysteria..
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smells alot like urban legend/hysteria..
I see a lot of hype in the stories and there's definitely plenty of hysteria. It's like trying to find facts in a TV commercial. But I'm just scared enough to try. I hope the disaster isn't as bad as they say but we won't know much very soon... I don't think.
For example, they said that oil is coming down with the rain. We are going to put a clean glass punch bowl out the next time it rains. I decided it should be up off the ground about 5 feet. That will make certain that nothing can splash into the bowl. Then we can check it and see if there's any oil or anything like that in it. What I can learn myself is still more important than anything I hear.
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If the wikipedia story is true, Dr. Wickstrom is a racist. But I don't see any connection between racism and environmental disasters. Are Lindsey Williams, the BP informants, and Alex Jones racists? If Wickstrom and the others stories prove to be right, it won't matter what they are. This thing is very scary and I think we will learn more about it by talking about "it" instead of religeon or racism... imo, racism/Wickstrom could be better focused on in a new thread.
Why is averything racism. I think hes right about this bp has not told the truth about any thing.
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Usually any email that has comments like "scientists forbidden to tell you" and
"What you are about to read, is what the scientists in the United States are not allowed to tell you in great fear of the administration.
They are under the threat of severe repercussions to the max."

Are a HUGE sign that might as well say URBAN LEGEND (or, LIE).

Can you imagine being some scientist and having someone tell you "there will be severe repercussions TO THE MAX"???? What a silly comment!

the second sign that this is junk and a lie is the "please forward to as many people as you can".

The oil leak in the Gulf is a real environmental horror and an enormous tragedy, to be sure, but junk like this doesn't need to be passed around.

(Can you tell that I hate all these types of emails that get passed around forever??)
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Why is everything racism. I think hes right about this bp has not told the truth about any thing.
Good Question.. He might be, but that's that guys' problem.. has nothing to do with the story. :^)
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Usually any email that has comments like "scientists forbidden to tell you" and
"What you are about to read, is what the scientists in the United States are not allowed to tell you in great fear of the administration.
They are under the threat of severe repercussions to the max."

Are a HUGE sign that might as well say URBAN LEGEND (or, LIE).

Can you imagine being some scientist and having someone tell you "there will be severe repercussions TO THE MAX"???? What a silly comment!

the second sign that this is junk and a lie is the "please forward to as many people as you can".

The oil leak in the Gulf is a real environmental horror and an enormous tragedy, to be sure, but junk like this doesn't need to be passed around.

(Can you tell that I hate all these types of emails that get passed around forever??)
That's why I said "hype/hysteria". I've heard about the "pass around" emails and I'm real happy I don't get them in my email! I'll "spam" them if I ever do. I'm scared... I won't lie... but I think the only things we will really know are things that are happening that people can easily see themselves. I'm also a little suspicious of one link I read that used "extinguish all life on earth".
I also read a link that said that Corexit has been used for 30 years on oil spills. It sounds really nasty but I still haven't read about any major disasters from using it. But maybe I just haven't read enough yet. I don't know.

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True. I don't like many of my teachers but if I don't listen, I won't get any good grades. Maybe there's some truth to what he's saying or maybe not. But since most people are hyping about almost everything, I like to listen to everyone... then try to figure out what makes sense.
For now, I think I'll just do brains-off and listen to some hot tunes, lol.
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Corexit.. maybe why bears don't get enough fish in Alaska and Fish & Game have to keep them out of the towns. Maybe limited fish could be a result of fish not being able to reproduce.? What will it all be in the gulf?
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I am not an engineer--I am a scientist and I know chemistry and physics, we can probably get the info to make an estimate of the pressure--at the end of the pipe--based on the flow estimates (2.5 million gallons a day) and the diameter of the pipe--21 inches I think--I will see what I can find.

The pressure in the formation can also be estimated from flow resistance factors and the distance.

I doubt the suggestion of temps of 400 degrees and the possibility of explosion if water were to penetrate the well--as long as there is any pressure, water cannot go upstream against the pressure.

I do have serious concerns about what it will do to the environment and ecology of the Gulf. There could be fisheries that will be permanently destroyed. There will be added carcinogens in our food for decades. I am seriously disappointed with EPA for allowing the use of corexit to hide the spill--that is it's only function here. It is the reason there are huge underwater plumes that we can never remove--that will get into our food chain--that will suck the oxygen out of large masses of water in the Gulf--shame on EPA.


EDIT: I found an online calculator for pressure and flow--I also heard the the actual pipe diameter is only 8 inches--the casing is 21 inches. Plugging in the flow of 100,000 gal/hr in a 8 inch pipe 10,000 ft long shows a pressure drop of just about 300 psi. I seriously doubt that formation pressures are in the range of 20,000 to 70,000 psi.

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Oil wells eventually run dry. There has never been an oil well found that just kept on gushing forever or else we'd have unlimited fuel forever. An oil well taps into a pocket of oil. It doesn't come close to the molten core and won't cause a volcano...otherwise we'd have caused volcanoes before. Even if it did, the huge amount of cold water would quickly cool any lava flow. Worst case scenario is an island. Scientists are only pressured to be silent if they keep putting out grossly inaccurate information year after year. Any scientist that came up with correct information in the public's interest that was being stifled would make him/herself a word hero overnight. All this stuff stinks like all the other bad internet spam that get's passed around. When was the last time you got one of these emails that turned out to be true? Usually you can check out snopes.com and get the low-down on this stuff.
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Oil wells eventually run dry.
Many people think this is Abiotic oil.

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All this stuff stinks like all the other bad internet spam that get's passed around. When was the last time you got one of these emails that turned out to be true?

"Get this out to as many people as you can...", "extinction of all life on earth...", and "It's worse than anyone could imagine..." are some of the best leads into total bull#$%# that I've seen. And you are right about "Oil wells run dry". Thanks for that! I can't believe I didn't remember that.
As for "abiotic" oil, I still don't get. Oil is made up of the same things animals are so I don't see how it could be "abiotic". But I have heard that oil [like animals] can form just from chemicals instead of dead animals. Thanks for the youtube.
What I haven't heard yet: They have a machine that can xray the earth to look for dinosaur fossils. Have they used one to see how big the oil pocket is?
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Very interesting video, thanks momo. We already have the non-oil based technology and everyone's just waiting for someone to release it into the public. These wells and everything about the oil industry has been obsolete since the first thermonuclear fusion made by Andrei Sakharov (1950s).

The more you look at it, the worse it looks. And I wonder what the situation will look like, when the hurricanes come. Alex turned away, but other hurricanes might not.
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Very interesting video, thanks momo. We already have the non-oil based technology and everyone's just waiting for someone to release it into the public. These wells and everything about the oil industry has been obsolete since the first thermonuclear fusion made by Andrei Sakharov (1950s).

The more you look at it, the worse it looks. And I wonder what the situation will look like, when the hurricanes come. Alex turned away, but other hurricanes might not.
Good! This would be a great time to release it and shut down the oil businesses. Alex probably turned away because of the stink in the gulf. Maybe if enough people have to smell it all the time, they might turn away from using oil too.
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The more you look at it, the worse it looks. And I wonder what the situation will look like, when the hurricanes come. Alex turned away, but other hurricanes might not.
And they are predicting a very active hurricane season. Even this one that is missing the oil slick is still pushing oil north and east. The gulf is like a giant bathtub, one disturbance causes waves on all sides of it.

Pretty soon the gulf coast bananas will look something like this.
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