Lodewijkp

Hello everyone

Of course this is not a conversation about bananas but it is about the rising need for primitive energy resources like oil which are currently rising in price.

This really threatened the economy on every scale but the real problem is that regular authorities like in Europe are also in search for alternative energy sources, like in the country where i live; the dutch goverment has signed contracts for palm oil.

Now rain forrests in Maleisia, Papa new guinea and other third or second world countries are cut down to plant palm tree's or other plants for fuel which is really wrong also because those goverments are corrupted and we the modern and first world countries support those corrupted goverments by signing those contracts for this purpose.

Those corrupted goverments are earning alot of money with illegal woodcutting.

Palm oil or other plant oils are not a good resource- by this we are doing more harm than good, we even have global food problems how can we even do this kind of things ?

The biodiversity in those areas of rain forrest or undisturbed native habitat which are disturbed or cut down is about 3 %, Recovered areas wil never be the same and studies show that national biodiversity wil only take up to 29 %
also the important micro organisms get wiped out because those contracted farmers or company's use cheap fertilizers, fungicides and pesticides which are harmfull and can stay a long time in the soil.

Every animal is important and very usefull animals like chimps that spread literally thousands of seeds from hundreds of plant and tree species are wiped out because of this search for '' wrong alternative energy resources''.

In afrika there are plains which are better for agricultural purposes but the local people cannot work on these lands because of the giant inflation of food and energy costs.
They cannot pay or substain any motorized, automatic equipment and fuel to culture the land / food resources.

The inflation of oil has now reached Europe and America and maybe wil go on further , what if we could not pay oil anymore?
Then we are likely to live like alot of people in afrika that have no access to a efficient energy system.

Still we are still giving money to organizations like unicef and amnesty international which is also a good thing, but if we all had access or developed a free or cheap , non polluting energy system which could create durable enery on the spot we would solve some problems like the ones i mentioned above.

Brilliant scientists like tesla already developed this technology decades ago but were lost or bought by people that not want this technology available to the public.

i mean if you run a oil company and you can pump up oil for 3 dollar and sell it for 130 dollar that's a pretty sweet deal.
People which run those company's want to stay in power they want the world to be dependent of them and their oil, some of those people are also very active in political structures and foreign political lobby's like APAC.

Scientist who develop this alternative energy devices and technology are threatened by these people and lesser political structures who want that technology not available to the public so they bought it up and put it on the black shelf or killed those people who designed it.

it's a very bad thing that people only want power, you can have power or knowledge in alot of things but if your motives are not correct than it can have disasterous effects, this effects are already displaying in some parts of the world.

My conclusion is that a free/ cheap non polluting energy system which can create sufficient of amount of energy drawn from the space around us and created by electro magnetics WIL SOLVE ALOT PROBLEMS ON EARTH.

People like doctor Steven Greer also known from the disclosure project ( disclosureproject.com) are pioneers in this area, with a team of scientist ( and more joining ) they are designing technology's and devices which are lost for years or lost decades ago and creating new ones with brilliant minds working together.

The only problem is that they don't receive any financial support from any political structure or major organisations.

This project is called the orionproject - see www.theorionproject.org and they already have established connections and received donations from alot of people, but more is needed '' Every donation or makes a difference, even the smallest amount''

so please visit : www.theorionproject.org for more information.

See what you can do or at least collect information about this subjects and form your own opinion, you are a part of this planet called earth and have the right to know.

gr.

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Lodewijkp

you can also look for movies or conversations on YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

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Richard

You might wish to read the coverage of this topic in The Economist.

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NANAMAN

What does this have to do with growing bananas, or the banana forum in general?

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mskitty38583

many gov.'s dont care about the needs of the people...they care about how big their bank accounts can get. we do need to put a stop to the greedy gov.'s, when the people have had enought they will step in. but till that time, people will just sit and think what can i, being one person, do to stop this. can one of the mods move this thread to the tiki hut?

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modenacart

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Lodewijkp

what you can do is invest in people like this, who won't only sit but wil take action. and to do so they need more funding from the public because they are independent public organisation.

As a whole we can invest in the future and we have a better place for our children who wil be born in the mess which we created in 20 years.

People who wil sit and think about this are people who do care ,
and you have people like that guy above said '' what does this have to do with banana's'' he does not care and is blind.
Read my message above because we are already damaging the nature including hundreds of life forms including banana's , mankind does not have the right to wipe out species that inhabit this planet and sadly alot of people don't care.

We are now already in big troubles and it's a matter of time for a durable solution wil come but it wil take more time to make this usable in homes and cars.

the technology already exists but how do you move this to the mass public in each home and car ?
The spreading of it wil be the most difficult thing to.

America is dependent of arabia to deliver oil, your country is taken hostage by arabic oil companies and they can raise the price as much as they can.
Everybody knows how fragile the middle east is , do you want to be dependent on that ?

If a war wil break out in that area and it happened before, the US army wil be defeated instantly because there is no supply of fuels.
Look at Iraq ; What was the advantage of invading iraq ? it costs almost 3 billion per day while organisations that want to develop durable energy technologies get not any money.

Hollywood make movies that are 200 million while organisations like theorionproject even don't get a million, what are we doing to ourself and those people who tried to help us.
Steven greer was a former emergency doctor which gave up 200.000 dollar salary each yearand his career to persue this, this people are trying to help us and the planet and other people don't care about that ?

I care i wil donate 30 dollar each month and i hope other wil also help by donating or spreading the word.

gr

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